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Title: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 25, 2009, 12:04:42 PM
I know this is out of season but any secrets about any rides for next year?
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 25, 2009, 02:13:34 PM
Launched woodie built by Gravity Group with their new "Timberliner Trains". They're going to start clearing land out behind the flume and the ride will incorporate the lake as a splashdown, not once, but twice. Should be exciting to see this new ride progress.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on July 25, 2009, 02:18:19 PM
This is what my sources told me as well. They're not always right, but they were right about Big Bad Wolf, KD's new Giga next year and Geauga Lake closing.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: WadeJ on July 25, 2009, 02:44:41 PM
Nice lol. Stop speculating!  Oh well, my vote goes for a .... Wait, nevermind. I'll give away too much. I'll go with - were getting something :).
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 25, 2009, 03:04:55 PM
Wade!!!! Don't do that!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on July 25, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Wade can't say anything, but we can. :)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 26, 2009, 12:46:13 AM
When will they tell us.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on July 26, 2009, 09:20:09 AM
Probably when 2010 season passes go on sale. That's the usual scheme. ;)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Bubba Z on July 26, 2009, 09:28:31 AM
we are getting new smoking sections to replace the old ones. I heard one even has a loop!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: darkridedan on July 26, 2009, 10:07:55 AM
The restoration of the carousel will be complete with the addition of lockers; Sorry to spoil the surprise.

Rumors are circulating that each smoking section will offer premium seating.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Bubba Z on July 26, 2009, 11:27:38 AM
^ @ $15 dollars a piece
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 26, 2009, 10:21:32 PM
I heard some were that were geting a dive coaster
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: WadeJ on July 26, 2009, 10:33:50 PM
Alright, sarcasm aside, as funny as some of those posts are lol...

Back on topic - The typical rumors are Dive Coaster, Drop Ride, Water Ride (in the theme park) or a Hurricane Harbor Slide of some sort.

I can tell you with a fairly high degree of confidence that a dive coaster isn't happening in 2010.  I've been wrong before but I'm fairly certain about this.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: overlord on July 27, 2009, 02:34:43 AM
Who knows Wade. Maybe Gadv will be afraid that Doswell is getting a Gigacoaster like BGW and will have to build an amazing attraction to compete. :P
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 27, 2009, 05:19:56 PM
We need a new good ride we haven't had one since 2006(el torro)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 27, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
You mean since Nitro :)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on July 27, 2009, 07:44:14 PM
What Rob said. ;)

Seriously though, three years since El Toro is nothing. Wait another seven years and then tell me Great Adventure needs a new coaster. But only if they've taken care of their other problems first.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 27, 2009, 08:33:15 PM
Whats The other problem
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: nitrorox1414 on July 27, 2009, 09:27:08 PM
Bankrupt?
Whats The other problem
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 27, 2009, 09:28:31 PM
They've got plenty of "other" problems, but what parks doesn't. They've got the landscaping thing down, and operations seem to be light ears better than before. But they need to get a better preventive maintenance program going, install some more family friendly rides rather than just big thrill coasters, more flats, no more kiddie areas, added security (consistently)... that's just to name a few.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on July 27, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
Too many to list.

The park is lacking in many things and coaster count is definitely NOT one of them.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 27, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
Bankrupt?


Yeah and that :)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: nitrorox1414 on July 27, 2009, 09:44:58 PM
I would love to see a dive coaster in Scream Machine's place or Rolling Thunder's place!!!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: dkny6363 on July 27, 2009, 11:22:29 PM
You guys need a Max Air... and not a cheap small version. The full one.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on July 27, 2009, 11:46:23 PM
They sort of already had one and gave it to Great America.

i'd settle for a nice antique car ride.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: coastersue on July 28, 2009, 06:54:40 AM
I would love to see a dive coaster in Scream Machine's place or Rolling Thunder's place!!!

Hell no!  Rolling Thunder is the best coaster in the park!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: rjholla2003 on July 28, 2009, 10:29:35 AM
And we need it back, and put in a prominent location.  It's a spectator ride.  Putting it behind Autobanh was the worst mistake with that ride.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: themeparkrider on July 28, 2009, 11:20:54 AM
I would love to see a dive coaster in Scream Machine's place or Rolling Thunder's place!!!

Hell no!  Rolling Thunder is the best coaster in the park!
Do you guys realize how expensive it is just to demolish a coaster?  ??? Really! I think GA is in a sort of black hole, and they cant do anything about it. Not untill they make more money. But I agree, RT is good, but no longer good enough...  :(
But if they did have the money, here are the ones that need to go:
RT
GASM
BBLTT
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 28, 2009, 02:14:32 PM
Hey, I got an idea how about the flat rides situation just change the height requirement to 52 and boom you dont need flat rides
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 28, 2009, 02:31:59 PM
Change which height requirement?

One of many reasons for adding flat rides is to give guests more options, or bang for their buck. If you pay $60 to get into a park that has 12 coasters, 3 flat rides and a few shows, that's in the range of $3-5 per attraction. Let's say you go to a park with 17 coasters, over 15 flat rides, somewhere around 5-8 shows and still only pay $60 for admission, then you can see why adding extra rides would be beneficial to the guest experience. Not to mention there are some really awesome flat rides out there that I'd love to see at more parks, especially Great Adventure.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 28, 2009, 03:10:31 PM
Change all the rides with hight requirement 54 to 52 to make it more kid friendly trust me no one is falling out.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: rjholla2003 on July 28, 2009, 03:30:31 PM
How do you know that changing the height requirement from 54 to 52 inches is safe?  Did you build the ride?  These are not arbitrary numbers.  The height requirements that are in place are done so by the manufacturer to ensure that the size of person they designed the ride for is who is riding.  Sure there is a built in cushion, but I don't think any of us are privy to what exactly that cushion is, and what would end up putting the guest in jeopardy.

Also, that still doesn't fix the issue of the park not having a balanced collection of rides.  My favorite thing about Six Flags New Orleans was that they had an absolutely AMAZING collection of flats that made me forget the park was small, or had a limited coaster collection.  If there was anything that was truly a shame about that park falling, losing that ride collection was it.

Themeparkrider, why would RT have to go?  It's been steadily improving year-after-year as they give it more TLC.  Also, I don't see why Blackbeard's would have to go either.  It's pretty popular with families with small children.  We need MORE rides for this age group, not less!  I do agree with Scream Machine though as it doesn't draw it's own crowds more than feeding off of Superman's spillover.  The headbanging because of the poor transitions that were standard at that time is no longer charming IMO.  It's still a good ride, but it takes too much effort to ride properly in order to not experience pain.  It's a classic, and I would be sad to see it go, but I think that it would be fitting if next season turned out to be it's last and the "50th Anniversary" plans that the chain spoke of right before the Ch. 11 filing turned out to include a big ride to replace it.  I'd personally love to see a 4D themed out like Bizarro.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: themeparkrider on July 28, 2009, 04:01:10 PM
 Honsetly, I think that Rolling Thunder is a bit outdated, my opinion.  ^-^ When I say RT needs to go, I mean it should be replaced witha more mild, kid friendly ride. I think that Black Beard's Lost Treasur Train should go simply because its not good. But for a kid, okay your right its a good ride. But I don't see it attracting guest over the age of nine. Otherwis, its a good ride. As for RT, maybe they could just fix it up a bit... improve it to look more modern. I'm not saying I judge coasters by the way they look, I'm saying I judge them by the way you experience it, what you see is part of the experience, right?
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: rjholla2003 on July 28, 2009, 05:39:45 PM
So you're saying those little kids that do enjoy the ride because it's targeted for them should lose out on it because you don't like it, and you are not in the target audience?  I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just trying to follow the logic here.  I understand RT even though I still disagree.  I wouldn't miss seeing it go...but it better be replaced with a quality wooden roller coaster if that's the case (my preference, Gravity Group).  But Blackbeards is a crowd pleaser for it's demographic.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on July 28, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
...just change the height requirement to 52 and boom you dont need flat rides

What??? Some of us want flat rides. Coasters get boring after a while, especially when there is nothing else to do at the park. I can ride nothing but flat rides at Knoebels all day and be quite happy with my visit. The coasters are just more rides to do, not the only rides to do (unless you're at Great Adventure).
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: overlord on July 28, 2009, 10:22:33 PM
Flyers at Knoebels are worth the all day wristband alone. :)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: coastermom on July 28, 2009, 10:34:21 PM
After a trip to BGW and Freestlye parks this summer I have noticed how much we really , really need some flats at SFGADV . We rode the swings , the scrambler and all the flats at both parks . These flats also are targeted to the age group of kids like my son. He is 49 inches . Just big enough for El Toro but not tall enough for the bigger coasters . There are HUGE gaps in the ride choices at GADV. There are kiddie areas yes but they are not for kids his height or age group . Wiggles world is great for small kids as is LTSP . BBNP is Ok but he is boasrd there as well as BJL . There are just not enough rides for the inbetween group . We enjoyed the bumper cars , swings and  scrambler  these are the kind of rides we need back in our park. Coasters are great but there is so much more out there .
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 28, 2009, 10:47:54 PM
I feel the dark knight is to blame
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: dkny6363 on July 28, 2009, 11:27:47 PM
Just stear clear of the Jump 2 by Huss. CW is only 6-7 years old and rumor has it 8th year is 50/50.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: rjholla2003 on July 29, 2009, 12:17:45 AM
I feel the dark knight is to blame

Care to expand on that?  Not sure what that means.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: darkridedan on July 29, 2009, 07:58:25 AM
I like Dark Knight. I'll take it over Skull Mountain or Blackbeards any time. I think there's a huge falic symbol somewhere in the park that would get any blame if there's some to dish and its two Superman counterparts can share some too.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: coastermom on July 29, 2009, 11:02:18 AM
We also like the Dark Knight . Every year SF has taken the rides there were the war on lines out and have not replaced them with rides that would fit the same area or serve the same height requirements . With old country closed two rides there are not being used at all Bumper cars and music express . I understandd rides get old and need to be replaced but replace  them DO NOT put up chrge jumping thngs in as well as little pop up shows or smoking areas . Trust me when I say we really miss the rides like swings , music express , the old bulls by where part of  El Toro is , the pirate ships where the show is now ETC all these rides were line killers for the coasters and gave more choices for families .
It sounds like a broken record but SFGADV has become all about just going on coasters which is great for some but not for all that visit .   
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: DianaR on July 29, 2009, 11:28:22 AM
I have to agreee that not having a nice flat collection is hurting the park. Yeah, I've been a bad park fan because I haven't purchased a season pass in three years. Problem is that my younger son is NOT a coaster person and neither is my husband anymore. I am in the position where I can't take one kid and not the other. Dane get's bored and discouraged that there isnt much for him to do now. If the park brought back a nice collection of flats, I'd buy a season pass again. Rite now it's just not feasible. We had an excellent time in Wildwood and that was ALL of us. Not just me and my one coaster loving child LOL.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: coastermom on July 29, 2009, 01:09:31 PM
Diana I hear you . My son LOVES the coasters but it was nice to go to BGW and FMP and ride good old fashioned flat rides . We did it as a family too .
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 29, 2009, 01:12:04 PM
Every person here goes to six flags for one reason KICK ASS ROLLER COASTERS Period.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: nitrorox1414 on July 29, 2009, 05:15:52 PM
Not really...... some people go so they can enjoy times with friends. Or people force their terrified friends on Nitro Or Toro.
Every person here goes to six flags for one reason KICK ASS ROLLER COASTERS Period.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 29, 2009, 05:33:26 PM
Not really...... some people go so they can enjoy times with friends.
Ya and how do we do that by riding coasters
were not paying 60$ at the gate to ride flats.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: coastermom on July 29, 2009, 06:38:21 PM
Alot of people like coasters but like me and Diana as well as others here we have kids and families like different things. My son loves coasters but he also loved the bumper cars and other flats at BGW and Freestlye music park . These flats also keep the coaster lines down believe it or not there were times the line for the swings was longer then the line for BigBadWolf at BGW .
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on July 29, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
Every person here goes to six flags for one reason KICK ASS ROLLER COASTERS Period.

Every person here? WRONG. Of course since Great Adventure doesn't really have any flats, I guess when I go there it's to ride coasters, but I'd rather go there to also ride tilt-a-whirls and flyers and antique cars and drop towers and bumper cars and swings and zippers and frisbees and Turbo Bounces and Explorers and Spiders and Octopuses and Rotors and Crazy Daisies and dark rides and rainbows and wipeouts and Hexentanzes and Sizzlers and Tempests and Zippers and Skydivers and Rock-O-Planes and Calypsos and Troikas and Double Ferris Wheels and Slides and Twisters and Monsters and Derby Racers and Frisbees and Tumble Bugs and Bayurn Curves and Swingarounds and Auto Races and hundreds of other rides.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: nitrorox1414 on July 29, 2009, 08:09:41 PM
........ You said frisbee twice :D
Every person here goes to six flags for one reason KICK ASS ROLLER COASTERS Period.

Every person here? WRONG. Of course since Great Adventure doesn't really have any flats, I guess when I go there it's to ride coasters, but I'd rather go there to also ride tilt-a-whirls and flyers and antique cars and drop towers and bumper cars and swings and zippers and frisbees and Turbo Bounces and Explorers and Spiders and Octopuses and Rotors and Crazy Daisies and dark rides and rainbows and wipeouts and Hexentanzes and Sizzlers and Tempests and Zippers and Skydivers and Rock-O-Planes and Calypsos and Troikas and Double Ferris Wheels and Slides and Twisters and Monsters and Derby Racers and Frisbees and Tumble Bugs and Bayurn Curves and Swingarounds and Auto Races and hundreds of other rides.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: rjholla2003 on July 29, 2009, 11:32:20 PM
me23, if you read the thread you would have seen that you were wrong before you even posted.  El Toro might be my favorite ride in the park, but I still thoroughly miss The Pendulum, and I still complain about it's removal and it's poor placement from jump...which probably lead to it's removal because of poor ridership.  I still miss Rodeo Stampede as I learned I had another ride I liked a bit too late since it was removed soon after I started riding it.  There are guests who still look for Taz Twister, which sat right where El Toro's turnaround is.  Lots of guests still look and ask for Autobahn, Flying Wave, and Stuntman's Freefall.  When I tell the guests that these rides don't exist anymore, they are genuinely upset.  Sure, they are not the highlight of the day, but they are still very important.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: dkny6363 on July 30, 2009, 12:21:17 AM
I cannot believe there was a pendulum ride and it was given away.. Mind Boggling!
Was it a kife small one, or a decent size one?
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: themeparkrider on July 30, 2009, 12:42:45 AM
Okay,rjholla2003,
     I understand your point when you say it like that. I mean, Idon't belive its worth it for other people. I didn't personally ask them, just simply guessed. I suppose I was wrong. Now to back up on my statment on RT, here is a list of improvements I think they should make:
1 Smoother ride experience
2 Better lap restraints
3 New paint job
4 Updated cleaner oading dock
5 More of a bank on those painful turns
6 Ambience (fog sounds etc.)
7 Music
8 Faster ride  :golfclap:
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 30, 2009, 02:51:57 AM
^ I think the best part of RT is the buzz bar restraints. Not many coasters have them anymore. Not being stapled into a seat is a big plus for most people.

I'm not even going to get into the "people on go to Six Flags for the coasters" topic but I will say one thing. Six Flags over Texas is my favorite SF park. Only 1 coaster is in my top ten steel, and maybe top 20 overall, but the selection of other things to do besides coasters simply blew me away.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: ChuckR on July 30, 2009, 05:44:57 AM
Shockwave and Freeze!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: DianaR on July 30, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
Coastermom... I am glad someone can relate. For years I sang the praises of Gadv and now it seriously pains me to say that it hasn't grown with both of my kid's needs. Austin could ride Nitro all Day but, Dane is only good for three of the coasters even though he is tall enough for all of them. They took out entirely to many of their favorite flat/water rides!

This year we decided on Wildwood and a visit to Knoebel's for Phoenix Phall Phunphest. Both of my kids had a blast riding all the flats on each of the Piers at Wildwood. They proclaimed hands down one of the best family days they ever had. Austin and I have had awesome times at Gadv that I will never forget but, now I need to please the entire family! Sorry Gadv if your reading.. The kids (Especially the big one Aka my husband!) have been to and love Knoebel's. If Knoebel's was closer we would probably be there every weekend or at least every other weekend.
             
Matt keeps mentioning the (Knoebel's) classic flats and, those Flyers are a huge favorite in this household. I wish Gadv could sort of mock Holiday World and have a section devoted entirely to classic Flat rides. That's my wish now, what could they call it.... :)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: coastermom on July 30, 2009, 01:07:39 PM
Diana I do relate very well . We really wanted to go to Hard Rock Park when it was open but everything was 48 inches . My son last year was too short . We did go this year to Freestyle park not the same but it was great that he could do almost every ride except one. We love Hershey for the same reason there are great flats there . It is amazing how GADV has lost so many great flat rides . Yet even more amazing is that TWO are sitting unopened while they have Cabanas there that NO ONE USES !! UGH . WE could go on and on about this but really will we ever get these flats back ?? Probally not .
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 30, 2009, 01:12:13 PM
Are any of us going to stop going because their are few flats? listen flats are nice but we don't need them
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: ChuckR on July 30, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
Go to more amusement parks and you will realize why we need more.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: DianaR on July 30, 2009, 01:37:53 PM
We went to Hershey the year they built Stormrunner so, it's been ages but, I do remember Austin talking about The Claw for weeks! I plan on going back there to but, Rick likes the more layed back atmosphere of Knoebel's and feels that Hershey is a little to popular for him.

I think when I came back from Hershey I did mention to Kristen that my favorite thing about it was that in every section where there's a major ride, there's a flurry of flats or kiddie rides to keep the in-between's happy while they wait for the more adventurous family members.

I know that the people from the park who read this site are not the final say or decision makers but, I know that they understand where we are coming from and hope some day we can pursuade the rite people to see the importance of the people stuck in the middle. Instead of taking away from them I think they need to focus on them now. Kiddie rides and huge coasters are plentiful, Thanks :). We could start a petition Coastermom LOL.

Diana I do relate very well . We really wanted to go to Hard Rock Park when it was open but everything was 48 inches . My son last year was too short . We did go this year to Freestyle park not the same but it was great that he could do almost every ride except one. We love Hershey for the same reason there are great flats there . It is amazing how GADV has lost so many great flat rides . Yet even more amazing is that TWO are sitting unopened while they have Cabanas there that NO ONE USES !! UGH . WE could go on and on about this but really will we ever get these flats back ?? Probally not .
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 30, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
Are any of us going to stop going because their are few flats? listen flats are nice but we don't need them

It's all a matter of opinion. When I first got into the whole "coaster scene" all I cared about was riding coasters, getting my track record to the highest it could be and made sure I rode all the biggest baddest coasters. Now, after riding too many different coasters, its all about fun. I was in NJ for 2 weeks with basically NOTHING to do, with a Six Flags pass. Where did I go? Knoebels, Wildwood, out to eat, but not Great Adventure (which was only 30 minutes away as opposed to 4 hours to Knoebels and 1 hour to Wildwood). Even though it was free, I'd rather spend my time and efforts on quality park time while I'm on "vacation", and that's what I got. Now if I still lived there, I'd most likely end up going there to ride Nitro once or twice every now and then, but you wont see me going too far out of my way to get to this park. As I said before, it's a matter of personal preference and opinion. For you to say "we don't need flats" is a pretty high call. Who are you to determine what the park needs and doesn't need. You should have said "I don't think we need any more flats" or "wI feel we are a coaster park, and flats aren't needed". Just saying...
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: themeparkrider on July 30, 2009, 09:06:35 PM
Are any of us going to stop going because their are few flats? listen flats are nice but we don't need them
We need more flats! ???
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: rjholla2003 on July 30, 2009, 11:20:07 PM
me23, once again, if you READ the thread before posting, you would see that we do have people on these very boards who are ENTHUSIAST of the park that cut back on their visits, or virtually eliminated their visits because of this very issue.  If we have people who love the park enough to post on these boards that are complaining about that, and it has affected their visitation, you can bet money that there are MANY casual guests out there who feel the same, and behave the same.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: dkny6363 on July 30, 2009, 11:51:57 PM
They should open up a section called "80's fair grounds" and have a gravitron, a zipper, a tilt a whirl, a scrambler, and a bouncy castle... and have ugly carneys working the rides. They should let the carneys smoke, and take tickets(that don't have value or meaning) just to make the carneys feel at home. I love the carney in the gravitron that sits in the middle and plays music so friggin load. HAHA
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 31, 2009, 01:00:33 AM
Its this simple if you want flats go to a fair, you want coasters go to great adventure its that simple.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 31, 2009, 02:07:50 AM
RJ, nothing is getting through this guys 7 inch thick head. It's OK though, as I said, everyone has their own preference and opinion, it's just the opinions that have no facts to back them up that bother me.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: rjholla2003 on July 31, 2009, 07:08:01 AM
Same here.  It's one thing to use your head and debate a different point of view, but to blatantly ignore what people are saying is ignorant.  Especially when you're talking about the actions a business that is supposed to cater to WHOLE FAMILIES!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Ogolo on July 31, 2009, 07:16:52 AM
I think someone just likes to argue.
This brings back memories of this thread (http://www.gadvoutpost.com/home.php/topic,3063.msg30811.html#msg30811).
SFGAdv needs flats...especially some swings by the big wheel!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on July 31, 2009, 12:31:18 PM
Swings, Antique Cars, Frisbee, Observation Tower, Drop Ride... Jolly Roger and a Top Spin that doesn't flip don't really cut it.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: themeparkrider on July 31, 2009, 12:34:48 PM
EXACTLY! THATS WHAT WE NEED!  :headbash:
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: darkridedan on July 31, 2009, 12:44:13 PM
The Fantasy Forest used to be referred to as the Fair Grounds. There weren't any carneys though, but each flat was staffed with two ride employees! You're on to something with the zipper and a tilt-a-whirl; They'd be better rides than a klosed koaster.

They should open up a section called "80's fair grounds" and have a gravitron, a zipper, a tilt a whirl, a scrambler, and a bouncy castle... and have ugly carneys working the rides. They should let the carneys smoke, and take tickets(that don't have value or meaning) just to make the carneys feel at home. I love the carney in the gravitron that sits in the middle and plays music so friggin load. HAHA
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: armystrong62b on July 31, 2009, 02:01:54 PM
i think they should head towards a hersehy kinda style. there hardly isnt a spot in the park between ides that doesnt have a flat or some kind of ride. yea coasters are cool, but even me, and imonly 19, wants to ride more then coasters and have some flats to relax on
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Ogolo on July 31, 2009, 05:09:25 PM
klosed koaster...So subtle Dan!  LOL
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on July 31, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
Go to more amusement parks and you will realize why we need more.
Dude I went to Hershey 7 times this year every thing in Orlando and Six Flags Gadv is the best. See you guys are missing the point, Six Flags is a park that you go to ride killer roller coasters. Did you guys ever hear the saying "you cant please everyone"? So they please the most of them by giving them KICK ASS roller coasters.       
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Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: darkridedan on August 01, 2009, 12:22:55 AM
Thank you, Mr. Shapiro.

Attendance in 1996 = 3.6 million
Attendance in 2006 = 2.6 million

There were 6 coasters in 1996, 7 water rides and 18 flat and other rides
There were 12 coasters, 3 water rides and 14 flat and other rides in 2006; 8 of those other rides are no longer available or in use

It hardly seems worth it to invest in coasters
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: overlord on August 01, 2009, 12:46:57 AM
You are right Dan but the removal of Chaos was more of a safety one with all the bizarre events that happened with them. But none the less, its still a significant difference of rides. Mind you that SIX stock peaked in 1996 at a whopping $50+. Its time to get back to basics and that is what Shapiro is doing. A key quote that sticks with me is in an interview last year with Shapiro when he said he would have no problem buying all these flat rides, however its the problem of advertising them.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: darkridedan on August 01, 2009, 05:38:53 AM
That's his problem, right there. He doesn't know the difference between short term gains vs long term investments! Gary at least understood that, in 1999. Short term new coaster spikes in attendance haven't paid off in the past 10 years, however.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: overlord on August 01, 2009, 12:33:21 PM
Could it also be the cost of maintaining the flats, such as if we got the amount of flats as in 1999?
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: WadeJ on August 01, 2009, 03:49:41 PM
Not at all. The biggest problem with all of these flats is staffing them. We may start to see the tides turn in that regard though due to the crappy economy. For once lazy young Americans are looking for jobs.

Come to think of it, this year has got to have the fewest number of internationals that I can recall in recent memory.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: armystrong62b on August 01, 2009, 06:42:07 PM
if i lived closer then an hour and a half away id be all over working there, even if its minumum wage pay or w/e i would love to work at a themepark. but hopefully the econemy works out, and gadv figures out the right things to do in the future to take gadv to the best it can be
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on August 02, 2009, 06:16:17 PM
I'm going to work there next year. I'll be 14.





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Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on August 02, 2009, 06:24:27 PM
I hope they station you on Jolly Roger :)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: overlord on August 02, 2009, 06:26:06 PM
Oh please no. The remote control boat assistant is a much better job.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: nitrorox1414 on August 02, 2009, 10:20:29 PM
How about the person that stands in the parking booths.  ;D
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: AV Matt on August 03, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
Toilet scrubber
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: dkny6363 on August 03, 2009, 03:36:46 PM
They should build a Mr. Six Dark Ride with all creepy mr. charcters inside.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on August 03, 2009, 07:53:51 PM
They should build a Mr. Six Dark Ride with all creepy mr. charcters inside.

Thats so random
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: WadeJ on August 03, 2009, 08:39:32 PM
That actually really does creep me out lol. I'd love to see a buzz/mib style shooter at our park. They could go all out with the space we have. I just don't know what a good theme would be.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on August 03, 2009, 08:45:30 PM
Or they could do a western one by the log flume.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: dkny6363 on August 03, 2009, 11:17:31 PM
I just went to Waldameer and really enjoyed steel dragon.. and I know its another coaster but it's like a flat in ways... Small footprint, spining motion, make you feel dizzy.

Not sure but I think it might have a fairly low height restriction as well.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: me23 on August 04, 2009, 12:46:18 AM
Thats exactly what we need.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: rjholla2003 on August 04, 2009, 01:49:10 AM
What we need is this (http://www.universalorlando.com/amusement-parks/islands-of-adventure/attractions/adventures-of-spiderman-ride.html) themed to The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Coaster themed to...something else, THIS (http://www.flatrides.com/Ride%20Index%20Pages/giantfrisbee.html) by Granny's in the ready-to-go pad (or maybe THIS (http://www.dollywood.com/rides-attractions/ride-detail.aspx?AttractionID=570)).  Replace Tango with the resurrection of this (http://greatadventurehistory.com/RodeoStampede.htm)  Who doesn't love a good breakdance with a great theme, lol.

That's just a small part of the list of "what we need" that I could make.
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: darkridedan on August 04, 2009, 07:55:16 AM
I second that ;-)

...with stipulation that the frisbee be like the one we had before. :)
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: overlord on August 04, 2009, 03:04:09 PM
Yoooo that Timber Tower looks insane!
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: dkny6363 on August 05, 2009, 12:19:35 AM
There is a Timber Tower at nearby Marineland. From what I hear its nothing special, but It looks great.

I totally agree with the giant frisbie. MaxAir is the best flat i've been on I think. Other than scamblers, tilt-a-whirls, and gravatrons of course. haah
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: WadeJ on August 06, 2009, 09:27:30 AM
If I read this correctly, were you actually complimenting Six Flags? :D
Title: Re: Next Year
Post by: darkridedan on August 06, 2009, 09:53:10 AM
Not Mark Shapiro...but what's left of the old Six Flags.  ;)