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Great Adventure Boards => Great Adventure Trip Reports and Meeting Plans => Topic started by: coastersue on June 30, 2008, 09:24:21 AM
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Does anyone know if this event is just for people who have the word "premium" on their season pass? Rich bought his pass from GA and it has "premium" on it, but I bought my pass from SFNE last fall and it doesn't have the word premium on it. Would that mean I couldn't get into Rise & Scream?
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I would call and ask them ...tell them your situation and see what they say. I was under the impression that it was for only "premium" pass holders . Are you guys going? We are thinking of making a run for it this weekend too .
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Sue, I would be shocked if they didn't let him in. In fact, our passes were renewed last fall and none of them have premium on them. Yet, Kyle got his pass processed (he is 3 now) and never had one before. So because he got his pass early this Spring, it has premium on it. Meanwhile, we paid the same price for all 4.
Let us know the response but I wouldn't be all that concerned. But I understand you wanting to be sure before making the drive out.
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Do they include all of the rides listed on the website? The listing on the website says "including" Kingda Ka, El Toro, Nitro, S:UF, B:TR, Medusa, The Great American Scream Machine and the new DARK KNIGHT Coaster!
To me, if it says including, that means all of them. If it was just some of them, it should say it "could include".
Who else is going? Rich doesn't want to go. I would come by myself, but I'd like to have someone to hang with(and ride Rolling Thunder with!).
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I am leaning towards going Saturday. Apparently they didn't run El Toro for June's rise and scream, so hopefully they will for July's!
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Chuck and I should be there. I'm not 100% committed yet though. I'm pretty sure he is.
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I am almost 100% sure we will be there . I just have to see how late the night is on Friday but We are all set to go .
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We just got ripped off. It's suf and gasm and no-twist!
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So far, 2 rides on GASM, suf, 4 on Toro and 2 on Nitro. Matt44, Ken, Sue and I would have rallied for a 3rd on Nitro, but there are no re-re rides. TDK is almost a walk on but we were but 4 times. The park needs different kinds of people working Security. I almost didn't make it into R&S either because my season pass was purchased on the website but I just ignored the Security Guard and went in anyway.
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I never would have ridden SUF or GASM if it wasn't for Rise and Scream. GASM really wasn't all that bad.
I could not believe how dead the park was for a Saturday for a holiday weekend.
You can never complain about 4 rides on El Toro in a row without getting up.
Rolling Thunder was racing too!! Although we didn't come close to winning. I'll blame it on an unfair start.
Great hanging out with you guys! I seem to be running into Dan every time I go to the park.
And what happened to Chuck? Too many fireworks last night...
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I never would have ridden SUF or GASM if it wasn't for Rise and Scream. GASM really wasn't all that bad.
I could not believe how dead the park was for a Saturday for a holiday weekend.
You can never complain about 4 rides on El Toro in a row without getting up.
Rolling Thunder was racing too!! Although we didn't come close to winning. I'll blame it on an unfair start.
Great hanging out with you guys! I seem to be running into Dan every time I go to the park.
And what happened to Chuck? Too many fireworks last night...
Is the world coming to an end, you actually rode suf and Gasm.......
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I can't believe I wasted my time getting up early for S:UF and GASM. You would think with only having 3 Rise & Scream's, they would make an effort to have their premier coasters open.
I also wish they'd be more consistent with rerides. El Toro you could reride any open seat, yet Nitro wouldn't allow rerides even though the entire train was empty except the front row. Makes no sense!
On the bright side, it was nice to see Dan(even though you didn't ride RT with me!) and meet Matt, Ken, and RJ for the first time.
Were you there, coastermom?
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It was too bad that they had Superman and the Scream Machine running for rise and scream this morning, but the park was dead for most of the day so it was not too upseting.
It was nice to meet Sue and RJ for the first time, as well as hang out with Ken and Dan again. It was a really fun day at the park and luckily the crowds stayed away.
El Toro was running like a beast in the rain! Nitro was incredible all day long. I've never enjoyed it as much as I did today, even with both trim brakes on!
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Did you and Dan ride much when you returned to the park?
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hmm... We went on El Toro once more, once on each side of Rolling Thunder, Medusa once, Skull Mountain twice, the little blue kiddie coaster behind wiggles world once (I wanted the credit and haven't been on it yet), and once more on Nitro
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Is the world coming to an end, you actually rode suf and Gasm.......
Yeah..Once was enough for SUF and GASM 4 times! Had to kill that hour some way.
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I can't believe I wasted my time getting up early for S:UF and GASM. You would think with only having 3 Rise & Scream's, they would make an effort to have their premier coasters open.
I also wish they'd be more consistent with rerides. El Toro you could reride any open seat, yet Nitro wouldn't allow rerides even though the entire train was empty except the front row. Makes no sense!
On the bright side, it was nice to see Dan(even though you didn't ride RT with me!) and meet Matt, Ken, and RJ for the first time.
Were you there, coastermom?
Hey guys ... Yes I was there with my simpsons t-shirt on . I think I saw you guys over by SUF and once while you were on ET. I wasn't sure if it was you guys I really thought it was dan thought from the photos I have seen on the boards. I hate to look like an idiot and say hello to the wrong people though.
We stayed almost all day and did a lot of rides more then once. We left around 6:30 and drove over to ruby tuesdays to eat . It was amazingly dead for most of the day and the longest lines were not more then 20 min to 1/2 hour. Great day in all .
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BTW one more thing what is the deal with RT?? Why does the green train always win while racing ? Today the green train on the right side always came in first before the blue train on the left. MY son hates to lose on RT when it races and we rode it more then once just because we had to win .. I was just happy that it opened after getting over there around 11:00 and it was still closed .
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Thats a bit annoying to go there to have only GASM ans S:UF open. Re-Rides on Toro never gets old though
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It was an okay day. Nitro and El Toro never went faster and Kingda Ka was amazing too! The weather was the saving grace.
The Dark Knight was a one cycle wait along with everything else. The preshow began after the doors closed, but the people who cut us in line had yelled (or was that belching) through the whole thing. We did hit one brake perhaps because we were dispatched early or was it our combined weight? I was able to see every scene. Coherent storyline, no. I hope they place some of the sences in better places next year. It was still fun.
The strobes in Skull Mountain appeared to be placed on a slower speed. It was more like somebody flickering a light off and on, pretty slowly.
We rode Batman towards the back. It was a nice change from my favorite front row. INTENSE!
We also rode Medusa, S.U.F. Skull Mountain and Nitro in the back. Be careful of what you make fun of tho; Nitro is starting to feel like Kingda Ka in the back. :-\ We had our 4-ride marathon on Toro in the middle and Matt and I had an incredible ride in the back row after it rained. We also rode GASM twice in the middle. Matt and I rode RT and RMT towards the front.
The DK grouper and the Batman and S.U.F. crews were really good. The Medusa and GASM crews were pretty good too, including the operators. The operator on Road Runner Railway didn't think it was too weird that a 17 and 32 yr old was riding. The morning El Toro crew was great but the afternoon crew may have been new. I didn't recognize anybody working on the rides today, so everybody must have been new summer help. The Spring crews were taking a well deserved break.
The RT crew was bad as almost-always. The attendants did not make sure people had their seatbelts on or lap bars down before they would physically check them so there was allot of waiting around and re-checks.
The ride was racing but they sent Green too early. We only saw the other train far into the distance. Coaster 2 broke down so we didn't race anybody on our second ride.
Coastermom, the park made Coaster 1's lift hill (Red and Green) faster than the Coaster 2 side (Blue and Yellow.) It should be the other way around.
It is true that the Coaster 1 curve to the lift hill and the return curve into the station are longer, but the Coaster 2 far curve is longer and the out hills are bigger. The lift hills were timed at the same speed last year, so trains could be dispatched out at the same time: Red with Yellow and Green with Blue. Winning depended upon weight and speed... unless the trains got switched around. (In this case, Yellow would win every time if it were sent out with Green and Red would win against Blue.) This year like last, they are going for a close tie, but the lift hill change makes a difference.
The ride areas were clutered with litter more than I've ever seen them. I wondered if this was an immediate change to the ops not allowed in their own track area. Hats were everywhere too, thanks in part to the no loose article policy. The 'Visual Check' thing is pretty stupid. It should just be done, not said.
It's the time of year where the landscaping department forgets about the weeds. They were growing everywhere, but I saw the landscapers watering flowers after a night of rain, and a day of showers to follow. It made the park feel worn down and neglected. I noticed allot of things that needed to be repaired and repainted, especially the Superman bubble and around the Best of the West and inside the Western Fortress. But July is no time for a self-respecting enthusiast to be in their home Six Flags park, especially on a Saturday!
Thankfully the crowds were light, but I wouldn't have come an hour early to ride S.U.F and GASM. If they do read the boards, they know that these two coasters are the two least popular coasters amongst season passholders. However, Kingda Ka and El Toro opened on time!
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It's too bad we didn't meet up, coastermom. It would've been fun to ride RT with you and your family. It was great seeing Fred and Wilma again. :)
Dan, did you and Matt get to ride every coaster in the park? I was thinking yesterday would've been a good day to try that since we knocked out all of the big coasters early on. The only coaster you didn't mention was Blackbeard.
Did RT go down to one train on each side in the afternoon? It was 4 trains when Ken and I rode, but it was raining pretty well after we got off.
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I wasn't sure if it was you guys I really thought it was dan thought from the photos I have seen on the boards. I hate to look like an idiot and say hello to the wrong people though.
You should have come over and said hello. What is the worst that could happen?
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We could have done all of the rides. I did forget that we took the B&M express from Medusa to Nitro. After the rain, I dont think we were in the mood for the Log Flume or Rapids, so we got other people wet on the Flume. I dido't look over to Parachutes to see if they opened but I don't usually ride the stuff on the Boardwalk. I eyed the samba tower, balloons and tea cups but with the way I had been browning out all the way through Nitro's helix, I didn't want to be spinning around on purpose. We walked through Looney Tunes Seaport and I thought about getting my first flying carpet ride at Great Adventure since the 90's but Daffy's Deep Seadiver was closed again and Bugs Bunny Barnstormer was a little slow and a little more suitable for the younger set. We left around 4:30.
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Double Post. Cute.
Delete me please. ;)
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I wasn't sure if it was you guys I really thought it was dan thought from the photos I have seen on the boards. I hate to look like an idiot and say hello to the wrong people though.
You should have come over and said hello. What is the worst that could happen?
Have you seen some of the people that come to our park?? I don't know some of them are pretty nasty ... I will have to come over next time and say HI .
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It's too bad we didn't meet up, coastermom. It would've been fun to ride RT with you and your family. It was great seeing Fred and Wilma again. :)
Dan, did you and Matt get to ride every coaster in the park? I was thinking yesterday would've been a good day to try that since we knocked out all of the big coasters early on. The only coaster you didn't mention was Blackbeard.
Did RT go down to one train on each side in the afternoon? It was 4 trains when Ken and I rode, but it was raining pretty well after we got off.
Yes RT was down to one train on each side in the afternoon . I wish it was 4 trains they were very SLOW to load and unload the trains on both sides .
WE always have a stop to see fred and wilma . I would love to ride with you guys but I really don't want to ride RT with many people because of my sons FLIP OUTS when his train loses. He hates to be on the train that doesn't come in first it is quite embarassing and HIGHLY ANNOYING . especially now that I know one lift is running faster then the other and that maybe the ride opts should know this to make the race a little fairer..Rant over thanks ...
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Sue, I saw them putting the Blue train on after the rain. I don't know if that meant two trains on both sides. More likely it sounds like they swapped the Yellow for the Blue. Honestly yesterday was such a waste for me since it was more like a typical Spring or early Fall visit, but it was nice to do it in short sleeves and shorts. I won't be doing a Rise & Scream again and they could just scrap the idea.
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C'mon Dan, you know you had fun yesterday :P
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Seeing all of us was a waste, Dan??? :P
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LOL. I think we had our Family Fun Night yesterday. The day was fun, the R&S was the waste part. Otherwise I would cut the grass, got my oil change, got there last around noon to marathom RT with you, Ken and Matt and stayed later to meet Coaster Mom and maybe anybody else that went ;)
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Hey Dan if you cut your grass and get an oil change then when your done can you make it over to SI and Do mine??
It wasn't as bad as it sounds I got my once or twice a year rides on GASM and SUF . I never wait for SUF nobody in my family loves it and well the line is always HUGE .
Dan did sue have a green shirt on and someone had a white shirt with gray letters I think . I should have come over to say HI .
One more thing .. Here is a situation I have to post. My daughter and I were going on ET there was no line everyone was going right up the stairs . I went through all the line to have people just getting off JUMP the hand rails and walk in front of us. SO I was annoyed as these people have now CUT THE LINE . SO their friends are behind us and tries to get to them I did not allow them through . They asked why so I told them that they cut the line and I was not allowing their friends to do the same . One kid tells me there was no line so they did not cut anyone and that he works for the park and that is allowed. Now that is the funniest thing I have ever heard ...JUMPING over handrails is allowed I have to say I knew he was full of it and couldn't believe some people and the nerve they have .
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Well, no on cutting the grass. ;) I believe Sue had a green top. I had a grey Kennywood top (top of the pile) and Matt had a blue Millenium Force top on. I think Ken had a red top? That would be considered line cutting. My guess is that the park sent staff home due to attendance. It is not smart for the park employee to identify himself while he was breaking the rules.
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Yup, I had on a lime green top. :)
Was there security at El Toro when that happened? They shouldn't have allowed that. Then again, the line cutters at Dark Knight did it right in front of security who didn't say a word.
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See next time I am coming over guys just BEWARE ,,, I had a simpsons shirt I got "free" with my stay at the HRH this spring and my hubby had on a Mummy tee. I knew it was you guys . AHH there is always next time.
Yup security and was there as was the park employee in her bright yellow shirt watching it all happen ... I was so annoyed .
Dan I am thinking the kid was pulling my leg just to shut me up. Too bad it didn't work .
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Ahh. I think I will be proactive the next time I'm at the park and take the names of the security officers at TDK. I get cut everytime I'm in that line. Enforcement of the rules are so weird at this park. If you are or look innocent, you get a hassle. If you do something wrong they look the other way. They should just do what works at Knoebels...have no rules at all!
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I'll post the entire story later when I'm not on my phone but we arrived at around 7:30 last night for... Well, let's just say a very odd visit. All sorts of things went screwy.
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My shoulders started killing me today from all those R&S GASM rides!
TDK had the most security presence of any ride that day.
I think with the fact that there were no real lines they just didn't care about the cutting.
But just try to get a third re-ride on Nitro when there is no line!
I thought she would call security on us...
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I thought about posting a trip report for the day and calling it 'Opposite Day.' I didn't care for some of the employees' unprofessional behavior (Nitro attendant, El Toro line employees, Runaway Train attendants, front gate Security supervisor, The Dark Knight Security.) I am thankful that it was opposite occurances and not a regular thing. The other crews that I mentioned in one of my earlier posts were better than Cedar Fair crews.
Ok. My horse is now dead.
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Don't knock that horse yet ...Wade has his TR to post and why not just beat it a little more .. I know the stories can only get better at this point .
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Wow, sorry to hear that other people are having trouble with TDK security too. People cut right under their nose. The other day I said something to a kid who cut me and he threatened me, all with three guards right nearby. It was really scary actually, and I said something to the guards who then went to watch the line more intently.
Honestly, though, the only people I've ever seen security hassle have been ones that look innocent, generally mothers and fathers of families who they know won't put up too much of a fight. All the scary looking, thug kids who cause the most problems never seem to have anything happen to them. I honestly think security is scared of them and I'm sorry to say it looks like management is letting that fly. We need some beefier, bolder people on the security staff, and they really ought to bring back the lifeguard chairs. How are they supposed to bust cutters if they can only see a tiny fraction of the line?
Now that the can of worms is open, this is actually something I've been thinking about for a long time. I really think that now that the smoking policy is so well-enforced, line cutting needs to be the next frontier. Staff lines well and really crack down; put up tons of clear signs and kick people out at the first offense (just like the smoking policy). This will truly recondition park guests' behavior, just the way the park has done with the Smoking policy, and it's a step that really, really needs to be taken to fix up the park experience.
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Honestly, though, the only people I've ever seen security hassle have been ones that look innocent, generally mothers and fathers of families who they know won't put up too much of a fight.
Honestly, I am not big at all and I think I look pretty innocent, but I always seem to get stopped by security when I am filming...
Dan, the whole Runaway Mine Train inccident just made me laugh because it was so ridiculous. Some people just have no consideration what-so-ever.
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I've been on Dark Knight 2 times and I was cut by multiple people both of those times with security and employees present not saying a word. They especially need to watch for it first thing when people run to the ride and others in their group try to catch up. If the people in front can't wait for their friends, they don't deserve to be together!
On a positive note, as Dan said, the grouper on Dark Knight was excellent. The first time I rode, no one was grouping and many cars went out with just 2 people. This time, she was calling way far into the line just to get 2 people to fill every car. Good job there!
I agree, Pashacar, they need to treat line jumping the same as smoking. When people start to see ejections from people cutting in line, maybe they'll think twice about doing it themselves. Letting line jumping slide doesn't project a good family park image.
Inquiring minds want to know--what incident are you referring to on Runaway Mine Train, Matt?
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The dumbest thing about it is that it's not even a cost-cutting thing, since there are so many security guards and they're generally in every major ride line. They have every capability to prevent it; they just don't. They should really put in elevated booths, have one guard sit up there and watch, then have him radio down to a second guard staffing the line to kick the people out. I don't get how the new management can go so strong on security and other policies, then neglect line cutting so and let it grow to the worst level that I can ever remember it at in this park.
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The only reason why I can see them permitting the line cutting at TDK is that the people entering the line late may have been using the lockers. The Security Officer who tells a guest that they are not permitted to enter the line until they use a locker should instruct the guest that their party must enter the line together and the locker attendant taking the cash should do the same. At Runaway Train, two children from a family of four asked if they could ride again. They asked so many times that by the time they decided to park it, the other two were sitting in a row where other people were waiting. These guests became frozen in time and they couldn't figure it out they were not in the empty row that they were told to go. The employees were equally frozen but they were new and probably learned their lesson right there that Saturday guests are plain dumb. Like Matt said to me, if they went around to the entrance, they would have been on the train faster. Thankfully the park was empty
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I was there a few weeks ago and I have to say that a group of Thugs tried to get around us . I did not let them pass with my two friends one who was a former NYPD officer . I have had it with these thugs that think they can do whatever they want because they look the way they do . My friend and I were very happy when yet another person on line called the ride attendent and a few announcements were made about cutting and the thugs did have to go to the back of the line . I call it a small victory but again it shouldn't have to be like that .
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I hate to say this, but things like this is what agrivates people and makes people choose places like Hershey or Dorney, over GADV, the next time they go to an amusement park.
Last year the guards were on the money, and would throw people out left and right...What happened? :(
We need to hire some MLB umpires, and just like my Yankees, they can throw everybody out :P
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Hey Wade, can we count on that wacky trip report soon? You piqued my curiosity.