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Latest Updates => Park News => Topic started by: jglonek on June 21, 2010, 08:51:43 AM
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We have heard and read rumors that the park plans on closing Scream Machine for good on July 1st to make way for a new (old) attraction next year. You can read the speculation on this thread (http://www.gadvoutpost.com/home.php/topic,3663.msg39935.html#msg39935). A lot of it is from a thread over on CoasterFusion's website (http://coasterfusion.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?9254). Also, there are mentions of it on a Six Flags Great America website (for reasons listed below), which can be read here (http://www.sfgamworld.com/forum/great-america-forum/topic10194-1975.html). (As a side note, it's interesting to see what those people think of SFGA people).
While we don't know if this is true (and hopefully it's not), I wanted to get the word out as a news article for everyone to see, especially those that have fond memories of Scream Machine.
So again, Scream Machine may be closing for good in 11 days! So if you have a chance to go to the park and ride it before then you better take it!
If this is really happening, I hope Great Adventure makes an announcement prior to Scream Machine's closing so people know to come back and ride it, similar to what Busch Gardens did with Big Bad Wolf when they closed it last year. I really hope it doesn't just.. stop operating next Friday, with no warning. Especially since it's a 20 year old coaster.
And if the park doesn't say anything and Scream Machine is still running on July 2nd, then consider these rumors incorrect. Or delayed :/
And what would Scream Machine be replaced with if these rumors are true? Chang, from Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom. It's a stand-up coaster that was removed from the park when Six Flags decided to not renew the lease last year. It's been sitting at Six Flags Great America ready to go in, but if this rumor is true plans have changed.
Chang info on RCDB (http://www.rcdb.com/275.htm).
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Could this also be why superman is closed?
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I doubt that.
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Superman is closed because of footer issues, it should be open again soon
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NO! They can't do that! Gasm was my first looping coaster ever! I love that ride! I just a gasm marathon on friday. Rode it 5 times in a row without getting off! Sure I'd like chang but not over gasm!
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Morons.... Another 54"..... Just what we need.
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I really dont know what to say other then FLAT RIDES BADLY NEEDED!
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Another great six flags business decision.... Yes, that was sarcasm
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I never rode Chang, but I call BS on SF spending that much more to move Chang from KK to Great America then all the way to Great Adventure to replace GASM. CF didn't even spend a bunch to move Demon Drop, they decided to send it to Dorney which was closer than CA. Why would SF put Chang on a tour of the GAs.
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If this rumor does end up being true we might see Chang for a year or two and then it'll be either scrapped or moved to another park.
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Morons.... Another 54"..... Just what we need.
I have to agree with Wade here ! If it is true they really are MORONS !! WE need stuff for the middle height kids between 44 and 54 besides El Toro .. WE NEED FLATS and on that note I will end my rant !
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I'm thankful that they actually lowered Toro's height restriction. It makes the ride more fun!
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I hope this isnt true :( Gasm is a great ride.
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Tis probably too much to hope for that Mr. Weber be a believer in "The War On Lines" and in on site hotels...
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I had always heard that Chang was coming east, and was surprised when they started asking for variances for it in Chicago. As for Weber and the war on lines/on property hotels, he did run Paramount Parks rather well, and they were just starting to experiment with on property resorts.
I hate to see GASM go, I liked it. I also like Chang.
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On property resorts? Do you mean Great Wolf Lodge at Kings Island, in which CBS held a small (less than 20 percent interest) that Cedar Fair did not acquire? If not that, what?
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After riding Mantis @ Cedar Point, I Don't really care to see an Stand up @ Great Adventure, It had one before and it's gone, What I think would be best if they were to rip out GASM and believe me I don't want to see it go, I'd like to see a Maverick style coaster. Maverick is just awesome and would be a great addition to the park.
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I Vote for GASM
Chang some place else
they would spend how much to move it here ?
the cost to move it here could bring in some much needed Flats
Not everyone rides coasters ( I love them but my Tina doesn't) :'(
take that money and build a small to midsize Woodie :D
YES I AGREE with the Maverick BUT to costly
My Media Day pics
(http://www.techhi.net/images/COASTER/old/gasm-lot-800.jpg)
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After riding Mantis @ Cedar Point, I Don't really care to see an Stand up @ Great Adventure, It had one before and it's gone, What I think would be best if they were to rip out GASM and believe me I don't want to see it go, I'd like to see a Maverick style coaster. Maverick is just awesome and would be a great addition to the park.
I have been on Mantis, and I must say it is the WORST stand up I have ever been on. I have also been on Chang before, and I have to say I was impressed with the smooth layout I experienced and it has a pretty good layout.
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Oh, so Chang isn't really comparable to Mantis? Good, because Mantis is my only experience with a stand-up coaster and I hated it.
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It isn't that Chang isn't a good ride... and it isn't that I'm *I'M A BAD PERSON!*ed about GASM going. We all knew it was a matter of time. The issue I have here is that it makes ZERO sense to put it at Great Adventure. I bet the general public will think they even brought back Shockwave! Seriously though, we needed a massive water attraction of some sort or a flat package or even a decent but more mild woodie that the tween crowd can ride. Bumping up the 54 roster while taking away one in the 40's is just crazy. Although I guess I shouldn't speak as though this is already a done deal.
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/\ I got hit by our own censors lol
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Which doesn't necessarily make you a bad person, Charlie Brown!
I wonder if it does it to cocktails...like another board I frequent...
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July 1st just got bigger for me. Not only will we all have to see if GASM is closed that day, but free agency starts for the NHL that day :P
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NHL free agency is dwarfed this year by the Lebron sweepstakes. This is coming from a Canadian.
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On property resorts? Do you mean Great Wolf Lodge at Kings Island, in which CBS held a small (less than 20 percent interest) that Cedar Fair did not acquire? If not that, what?
I mean exactly that. Who owned the land that that resort was built on? Paramount Parks, who joined in with the resort company to build a resort on property.
Regardless of how much a stake they had in the resort, they were starting to experiment with on property resorts. Not sure what CFEC not acquiring it has to do with much, since they have their own resort brands and likely didn't see a need to buy into a competitor, but again my point stands. Weber ran Paramount Parks well, added flats and coasters, kept the company's finances in check, and was starting to experiment w/on property hotels.
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So July 1, it will be closed as of right now according to the rumor? No special celebration send off that day? Looks like I will have to go and take pics after work...
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I've hear the rumors as well. But did anyone read this? :) What do you think that means? :)
Is super coaster coming to Six Flags?
Chicago Daily Herald
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A new roller coaster might be in the works for Six Flags Great America.
Officials are expected to appear before the Gurnee village board Monday night to get the necessary approval to erect a roller coaster that features two hills topping a village-imposed 125-foot height restriction. The coaster, which documents show is a stand-up coaster that was at one time operating at another Six Flags theme park, would reach a height of about 150 feet in the initial hill, then climb 137 feet in a second hill. Under village law, anytime Great America wants to build a ride over 125 feet, officials must obtain a special permit to operate the ride.
Jennifer Duggan-Savage, director of communications for Six Flags Great America, said acquiring the permits needed for the ride is only the first step of potentially bringing a new attraction to the theme park, and stressed that a new ride is far from a done deal.
"Going to the zoning board for approval is the very first step in considering expansion for our park," she said. "At this time, we do not have any further information. We are always looking to expand and looking for different avenues to do that."
Six Flags officials wouldnt way where the new coaster would come from. Gurnee Assistant Village Administrator Patrick Muetz said it would be shipped from a now-closed Six Flags park in Kentucky.
Theme park General Manager Hank Salemi said during his appearance before the Gurnee zoning board on May 26 the coaster is a new generation, stand-up roller coaster that was manufactured by Bolliger & Mabillard of Switzerland. It would be the fifth B&M coaster at the park, along with Superman: Ultimate Flight and Raging Bull, according to minutes of the meeting.
If approved and installed, the addition would be the first major thrill ride added to the park since 2003, when officials unveiled Superman: Ultimate Flight. Its also the first time the park has requested a height variance for a roller coaster since 1999, when it unveiled Raging Bull.
The most recent roller coaster addition to the park is the Little Dipper, a coaster purchased during an auction of Kiddieland Amusement Park.
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This is good news as far as I'm concerned. Thanks Bret! Now I just hope we get flats and GASM stays put come July 1st!
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Oh, so Chang isn't really comparable to Mantis? Good, because Mantis is my only experience with a stand-up coaster and I hated it.
Jerry, Im glad im not the only person that thinks mantis was a one and done. What did you think of maverick? I know that it would be a bigger expense to put in a brand new Intamin rather than Chang which is already paid for by six flags, but GA has enough B&M as it is. Or how about a new Premier or S&S. We do need some variety at GA. I do agree that we do need flats even though i don't ride flats when I go to GA because i live 4 hours away from the park.
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On property resorts? Do you mean Great Wolf Lodge at Kings Island, in which CBS held a small (less than 20 percent interest) that Cedar Fair did not acquire? If not that, what?
I mean exactly that. Who owned the land that that resort was built on? Paramount Parks, who joined in with the resort company to build a resort on property.
Regardless of how much a stake they had in the resort, they were starting to experiment with on property resorts. Not sure what CFEC not acquiring it has to do with much, since they have their own resort brands and likely didn't see a need to buy into a competitor, but again my point stands. Weber ran Paramount Parks well, added flats and coasters, kept the company's finances in check, and was starting to experiment w/on property hotels.
Wouldn't it be something if GASM was actually coming down in preperation for an on-site resort? The parking lot next to Ka was the original location and having it hook into the park through where GASM is would make sense.
Unfortunately though, the rumor is still pretty solid. That meeting agenda was probably put together months ago and these changes happened literally in the last two weeks. Oh well... time will tell.
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I found Chang to be more enjoyable ride then Mantis and Iron Wolf. I would love to see more flat rides like Canada's Wonderland. There isn't enough to keep me busy the whole day like Knoebels and Hershey to name a few.
Wade is right, these town meetings don't happen on a days notice. There is still a pretty good chance Chang is coming our way like the rumors suggest. Let's give Great America Chang and we get a dive coaster ..sounds about right :)
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Ahh guys your KILLING me! I really don't want this rumor to be reality!!! LOL I am dying here!
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I've hear the rumors as well. But did anyone read this? :) What do you think that means? :)
Is super coaster coming to Six Flags?
Chicago Daily Herald
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© 2010 Chicago Daily Herald. Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning. All Rights Reserved.
A new roller coaster might be in the works for Six Flags Great America.
Officials are expected to appear before the Gurnee village board Monday night to get the necessary approval to erect a roller coaster that features two hills topping a village-imposed 125-foot height restriction. The coaster, which documents show is a stand-up coaster that was at one time operating at another Six Flags theme park, would reach a height of about 150 feet in the initial hill, then climb 137 feet in a second hill. Under village law, anytime Great America wants to build a ride over 125 feet, officials must obtain a special permit to operate the ride.
Jennifer Duggan-Savage, director of communications for Six Flags Great America, said acquiring the permits needed for the ride is only the first step of potentially bringing a new attraction to the theme park, and stressed that a new ride is far from a done deal.
"Going to the zoning board for approval is the very first step in considering expansion for our park," she said. "At this time, we do not have any further information. We are always looking to expand and looking for different avenues to do that."
Six Flags officials wouldnt way where the new coaster would come from. Gurnee Assistant Village Administrator Patrick Muetz said it would be shipped from a now-closed Six Flags park in Kentucky.
Theme park General Manager Hank Salemi said during his appearance before the Gurnee zoning board on May 26 the coaster is a new generation, stand-up roller coaster that was manufactured by Bolliger & Mabillard of Switzerland. It would be the fifth B&M coaster at the park, along with Superman: Ultimate Flight and Raging Bull, according to minutes of the meeting.
If approved and installed, the addition would be the first major thrill ride added to the park since 2003, when officials unveiled Superman: Ultimate Flight. Its also the first time the park has requested a height variance for a roller coaster since 1999, when it unveiled Raging Bull.
The most recent roller coaster addition to the park is the Little Dipper, a coaster purchased during an auction of Kiddieland Amusement Park.
That's an old story Twisterbret. They were supposed to go to another board meeting yesterday or today, but they pulled out because they have nothing to present. I think that alone pretty much solidifies this rumor.
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How is Chang in comparison to Riddlers? Riddlers wasn't a bad ride at all but the whole stand up thing didn't do much for me. I felt more like I was on a Kumba style sitting coaster. I still feel a nice wooden coaster over by Nitro would be a great addition or hell, even where GASM is, a nice GG Twister of some sort since alot of boardwalks have wooden coasters on them.
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There both pretty similar IMO. Chang isn't a bad ride don't get me wrong, it's just something I feel the park doesn't need at the moment. Plus, I really don't want GASM to go.
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Reggie said"""That's an old story Twisterbret. They were supposed to go to another board meeting yesterday or today, but they pulled out because they have nothing to present. I think that alone pretty much solidifies this rumor. """
Uhg and I have had a really bad gut feeling that this rumor could be the opposite. The same feeling I had befor KK was announced and a rumor.:( I really wanted the Jersey Devil wooden coaster over the lake that year! Just like I really want some nice flats this year! :/
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Maybe flats are still on the radar for next year as part of a grand plan? Just a thought.... trying to cheer things up a bit :D.
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Thanks Wade lol. I just can't see bringing back a Stand Up of all the other choices! The park "people" have to know that flats are important too! I Can't stand them taking flats (And water rides too!) out and not replacing them! I will say this right here though, one coaster I hope we NEVER see is a Eurofighter! Mystery Mine at Dollywood has really uncomfortable restraints! Almost reminded me of Chiller with OTSR's! Ouchy, my ears did not enjoy it one bit!
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This is odd that for the big 50 years, they are just going to use a recycled coaster...How much is moving and constructing Chang cost against a smaller GG or GCI wooden coaster?
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This is odd that for the big 50 years, they are just going to use a recycled coaster...How much is moving and constructing Chang cost against a smaller GG or GCI wooden coaster?
Exactly the issue I have with this whole mess. I just rode Evel Knievel (http://rcdb.com/4045.htm (http://rcdb.com/4045.htm))a couple weeks ago and was blown away by it. It's a great solid attraction. And at a cost of 7 million, I'd bet it's equal to moving and constructing Chang.
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Shhhhhh!!!!!Stop Talking Coaster up^ there!!! LOL
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I'll be taking my last lap this Saturday I guess. I won't really miss tho and I do like Chang over Mantis for the record. Riddler is still the Best.
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I remember Mark Shapiro saying in an interview that he wasn't up for adding flats because they weren't marketable. As much good as I think he did with the company, I staunchly disagree with that.
Thankfully the current guy (who may or may not end up with the job, remember) did add flats to the Paramount Parks. If Weber ends up running the company, now with all of the cost savings he's doing, I think that adding in some flats over time to parks without them, then spending some marketing money to market them (Any flat is marketable, just ask Cedar Point), then things could get good.
Granted, if they cloned Evel at SFGAdv, I'd think of moving to NJ...
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I remember Mark Shapiro saying in an interview that he wasn't up for adding flats because they weren't marketable.
Not sure where you heard that. Shapiro actually said on the conference call he did with fans that he wanted to get us a flat package
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/\ I think Gadv was one of the few parks that Shapiro did actually agree needed more flats due to the extreme number of rides that were removed over the last few years. Otherwise, he did typically hold the opinion that they weren't marketable.
Of course, we could have had one hell of a drop tower for the price of the Bizarro makeover and THAT would have been marketable so I digres lol
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I remember saying that they weren't marketable but he wasn't against adding flats to the parks, just not as a main staple of the off season. I believe his quote when something like this:
If tilt-a-whirls were all the rage, I would buy 20 for each park since they are so cheap but no one says I really want to go ride the tilt-a-whirl.
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For what it's worth, after reading through all of this, I realized that many of us are taking this as fact while it's still a rumor. And yes, I'm guilty of it to. So I just wanted to remind everyone that there is still a chance this isn't even going to happen ;).
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If it isn't true..someone really must be having fun watching everyone's reaction.
I haven't seen the message boards this busy in months!
Do the monkeys have first dibs on GASM?
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Blackhand....was this all your doing?
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I really don't understand the date of 7/1. If this is true, why not at least keep GASM open for the holiday weekend and close it on 7/6?
It's looking like we are going to squeeze in a trip on Monday after work. Anyone want to join us Monday night for some GASM?
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The whole thing is weird, so hopefully it's just a rumor and will go away. It just seems like a uh, not well thought out decision, in general.
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It sounds to me like a quick decision with not much effort put into it. There are many other parks that could do with it, but GA doesn't need another 54" coaster.
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Hell...they could fit a Lightning Racer in there probably
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New coaster plans at SFGAm officially canceled, confirmed by park's GM:
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/news/2421482,5_1_WA23_SIXFLAGS_S1-100623.article (http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/news/2421482,5_1_WA23_SIXFLAGS_S1-100623.article)
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Do we really need more proof that this is happening? I still don't know exactly how to feel. At least I got my rides in yesterday. :)
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It sounds to me like a quick decision with not much effort put into it. There are many other parks that could do with it, but GA doesn't need another 54" coaster.
agreed
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I understand that we don't need another 54 inch coaster, but at least they are not adding another to the collection. We are still going to have the same amount.
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I understand that we don't need another 54 inch coaster, but at least they are not adding another to the collection. We are still going to have the same amount.
One thing I wanted to point out was an error I had made in an earlier post. I had incorrectly posted that GASM had a 48" height requirement when it is actually 54". While I still stand by the fact that we don't need another 54" ride, it is somewhat of a relief that were swapping one for another. Now with that said, I still swear that at one point GASM was 48"!
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^ I Believe GASM was 48 at some point as well as it was the only way I could have rode it when I was younger
As for this whole rumor, Old Habits never die hard...This has been going on for years upon years upon years. Build a coaster, and ignore flats and themes.
I love GASM and dont want to see it go, but for Chang? Ive always joked how we needed a stand-up but it just seems like its a poor decision. A woodie in that spot would be ideal especially because its the "Boardwalk".
I do see some pros about this though, they will get people into the park to ride the new coaster as well as save money to build it. Basically expanding the profit margin...
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How about we sell Chang, get an Impulse to please the coaster people and some flats for the Tweeners?!! LOL I am seriously going to miss the sounds of Gasm's chain lift when I get into the parking lot! So much so that I'm going to record it! I really dont want it to go even though I dont ride it anymore. It was the first BIG thing we got in my 23 years going to Gadv. It was the first Gadv related words my kids said. Austin always yelled Skeem Sheen when we got in the parking lot just before he turned 2! I remember my brother losing his voice at 12 when I dragged him on it! Oh the memories! :(
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I remember my eighth grade trip when I got a friend to ride it for the first time. Sadly, he says he's glad it could be going...
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I really dont know what to say other then FLAT RIDES BADLY NEEDED!
I bet this is the anchor for a lot of flats - just hopefully not another '99. On TPR, they have a Google Maps view of four different possible placements of Chang on GASM's spot and the unused parking lot, and most of them leave space for a ride expansion. I think this is a great decision of the part of Six Flags's part because a stand-up is great for marketing, using a recycled ride saves money for brand new flats, and best of all, it's supposed to be a great ride. By getting rid of a rough, generally disliked looper and replacing it with a smooth, fun stand-up, we'll have one of the smoothest and most diverse coaster selections in the world.
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Every time I read this thread I get more pissed because Stand Up Coasters STINK! They were cool back in the 90's, but parks haven't bought a new stand up because they realize they are not good rides in the long run. Guests will ride it once because it's new, realize it's painful, and understand there is no need to ride it again. Plus, the capacity is terrible considering ride ops are constantly being asked to adjust the height of the restraints. ughhhhh
How about we sell Chang, get an Impulse to please the coaster people and some flats for the Tweeners?!! LOL I am seriously going to miss the sounds of Gasm's chain lift when I get into the parking lot! So much so that I'm going to record it! I really dont want it to go even though I dont ride it anymore. It was the first BIG thing we got in my 23 years going to Gadv. It was the first Gadv related words my kids said. Austin always yelled Skeem Sheen when we got in the parking lot just before he turned 2! I remember my brother losing his voice at 12 when I dragged him on it! Oh the memories! :(
Now that you mention it, I certainly will also miss the sound of GASM's chain lift pulling into the parking lot. It has the same nostalgia of the sound of an old woodie climbing the lift hill, plus it's and arrow, so it has a great lift sound. I can also say that GASM is a special coaster for me. I can remember growing up that I ALWAYS wanted to ride "the great american scream machine" before I was tall enough. More so than any other coaster in the park that I wasn't tall enough to ride. One year when I had thought I made the height requirement, I got in line for GASM, boarded the train, and was strapped in. When the ride op came to check my restraint, he had the restraint released and had me get out to check my height again. I was then told that I wasn't tall enough to ride. I was so upset that I cried and couldn't believe how close I was to actually ride the great american scream machine. I will never forget that day.
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Not only do I enjoy the sound of that old clanky chain, Weird enough, I like the smell of the grease...Its got a unique kind of smell that you automatically pin to Scream Machine.
You can argue that Chang MIGHT have better capacity, however GASM is and always will be the most reliable coaster in the park simply because its very elementary controls and mechanical elements make it so.
Personally, I dont mind Stand-Ups, Granted I only rode one, Mantis didn't bother me that much.
Now are they going to scrap GASM completely or hang on to it and move it somewhere else?
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Every time I read this thread I get more *I'M A BAD PERSON!*ed because Stand Up Coasters STINK! They were cool back in the 90's, but parks haven't bought a new stand up because they realize they are not good rides in the long run. Guests will ride it once because it's new, realize it's painful, and understand there is no need to ride it again. Plus, the capacity is terrible considering ride ops are constantly being asked to adjust the height of the restraints. ughhhhh
You're not the only one! Once and done for me on stand-up's.
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The two novelty rides will be right next to each other!
At least it doesn't look like they will be putting Chang where Koala Canyon was.
That is where I want a nice GCI Woodie (and please don't tear down all the trees).
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I continue believing it should have been Bluedusa to get cut or moved but I know more people ride it than GASM. I'll give up GASM if it means more douchebags will make it through the gates next year.
EDIT: Please don't ask me if I'm a douchebag ;)
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The two novelty rides will be right next to each other!
At least it doesn't look like they will be putting Chang where Koala Canyon was.
That is where I want a nice GCI Woodie (and please don't tear down all the trees).
Which one's the other novelty? Supes, Ka or El Bullo? ;)
GCI seems to be the B&M of wood coaster construction in that they cut down any tree that might be in the way, where as CCI/Gravity Group seems to have worked harder to maneuver around the trees and elminiate as few as possible. Part of this is at the park's direction of course. It's just cheaper to construct tall structures without obstacles in the way, so you know which route SF would take. ;)
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Uh....today's Six Flags is run by Al Weber, today. So I have no idea which route Six Flags would take, today. Back when Al was at Paramount, trees were pretty much safe...
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I'm also in the "not a fan" group for this one. My main problem is that Chang's design and ride experience is very similar to Bizarro in my opinion. I really don't get what it brings to the park.
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^there is nothing to get because it brings NOTHING to Great Adventure. Put it at The Great Escape which has nothing relatively close for goodness sakes.
I continue believing it should have been Bluedusa to get cut or moved but I know more people ride it than GASM. I'll give up GASM if it means more douchebags will make it through the gates next year.
EDIT: Please don't ask me if I'm a douchebag ;)
huh?????
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1.Medusa moved to SFStl
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Chang moved to SFGdv
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2 New Coasters at "Six Flags"
2. Chang moved to SFGAdv
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GASM removed
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1 New Coaster at "Six Flags"
3. An overinflated view of one's self worth
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Falling for hype
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Douche bag
I know you're good at math Matt. I hope this helps you out with figuring out my post. ^-^
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Are you a Douche bag?
One thing that i will miss on GASM is that....
If all the rides a packed then it will be there for a short line
Its there when you pull in saying "no wussys alowed"
CAnt beat those double loops
ITS AMERICAN!!!
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No, but I've encountered enough of them to know...
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AMERICA
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I should get the Youtube link for TEAM AMERICA, but I know no ones's gonna click it...
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I got my (possible) last ride on the front row of the red train last night.
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Blackhand....was this all your doing?
Not this time lol. I actually didn;t find about about all these rumors or even the whole weber thing till like a week after it happened.
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... I actually didn;t find about about all these rumors or even the whole weber thing till like a week after it happened.
You knew about the Weber thing a week before it happened? I am quite impressed...to put it mildly. I bet even Mark Shapiro didn't! :)
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... I actually didn;t find about about all these rumors or even the whole weber thing till like a week after it happened.
You knew about the Weber thing a week before it happened? I am quite impressed...to put it mildly. I bet even Mark Shapiro didn't! :)
Reread my post. I said after not before.
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Ahhh...and I was so impressed...but didn't that say before before? :)
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Got my final ride and shoulder bruises this morning!
There was a longer wait at GASM than El Toro, Ka or Nitro.
Strangely empty park this morning.
It looked line everyone was on line for Superman! And I never really understand that.
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So they really are closing GASM down? it's strange that it has a line even on the day you're describing.
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The park was so empty in the morning because all of our guests were trapped on the Turnpike with the sinkhole
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Ken you really need to start texting me. I seem to go tot the park everyday you do!!!! I was wondering why Hurricane Harbor was so empty, that explains it all. I never did make it over to the park side. I was too tired from the Safari and the wave pool.
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Got to the park around 1 because of the sink hold got off the turnpike and took a tour with the navi. but got to the park .. Longest lines were Superman and El Toro .. Rode ET but not Superman . GASM was walk on and I have to say after my ride please take it down .. Huge headache and black and blue on my leg from it ... Not sure if I could ride it more then once a year anymore .
BTW we did the whole park and were in the car by 7:30 or 8 the latest I dont know where everyone in the park was but there were no lines I say more then 40 min .
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Sink Hole Saturday!
At least that explains it..I was really getting worried.
I expected a 1/2 hour trip, but was having so much fun I stayed until 1:00PM.
There was some big concert going on in the Big Arena.
They were also setting up the fireworks on the barges.
Only the main barge had been set up and the barges didn't look much further back.
Sad to say it looks like the Guns and Roses may have been taken out of the song list.
For some reason I think they may be limiting the low to the ground fireworks.
Joe you know how I am about bringing my cell phone into the park!
As much as I would like El Toro to take my "wonderful" Storm 2.
I'll text you before I get to the park next time.
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We went last night for some final GASM rides and even bought an on-ride photo which we hardly ever do. Still hope it’s not happening, but…
Not happy about their cutting hours. Last week the website showed 9 pm closing and yesterday it “magically” showed 8 pm. I hate seeing moves like this, especially since they already have their operating hours in print on their brochures. I know hours are always subject to change, but it’s still a shady move.
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Ugghhh. Bubba and I are heading up tonight. Thanks for the heads up because that almost makes the trip pointless.
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I honestly don't know why you people want GASM so bad. Just before this rumor, everyone talked about how much they hated it...
I'd be excited to see Chang come; and as for its similarity to Bizarro, the GP would be so infatuated with the whole standing up concept that they wouldn't notice the similarities. As long as they fill the tracks with sand so Bizarro's the only ride in the park with the B&M roar, I'd be fine. I just hope they theme it well, I've pretty much given up on the back of the Boardwalk's theming, so Webber should just theme it some how.
As long as it doesn't pertain to movies. That's Movietown.
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If you think this management is going to fill Chang's rails with sand, you don't understand much about Al Weber. Filling tracks with sand costs money and benefits revenue how exactly?
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I honestly don't know why you people want GASM so bad. Just before this rumor, everyone talked about how much they hated it...
Eh. I hate Superman more than GASM, personal preference though I guess :D
I think it's more of that the park wants to scrap a 21 year old iconic ride without any notice to the fans of it, and then replace it with a used, cheap coaster.
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Eh. I hate Superman more than GASM, personal preference though I guess :D
I agree with you. I'm not a fan of stand-up or flying coasters. With GASM gone and Chang replacing it, I'll have no reason to even be in the Boardwalk section except for the occasional ride on the Parachutes.
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As long as they fill the tracks with sand so Bizarro's the only ride in the park with the B&M roar, I'd be fine.
In addition to what Wow said, what about it's neighbor Superman, as well as Nitro and Batman? I think they beg to differ.
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I don't get how some of you think GASM is an iconic ride. Magnum would be a good example of an iconic ride from that time period. I don't see these two in the same ballpark.
Superman may be bad for B&M but it's still a decent ride. I bet if it was walk-on all the time you'd all like it more.
I intend not to offend by this, but I find it hillarious how you all complain about getting chang. Also how all your coasters are 54". From my perspective it's like listening to a rich kid complain about only getting a Lexus for his 17th birthday, when he got a lambo for his 16th birthday. SFGA has one of the greatest collection of coasters on the planet, and adding chang and scaping Gasm increases that collection. Chang would be the 3rd, or 4th best coaster at most parks. At yours it's the 6th, or 7th! I get you have no flats, and I get there are no "intermediate" coasters. Well my parks got tons of both, and all we ever talk about is how we have so few great coasters. Wanna make some trades? We offer a wild mouse, and an enterprise for Kingda Ka. Or how about a stunt coaster, and a Jump 2 for El Toro. I guess it's one of those the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence things. But believe me when I say this... SFGA has a sweetass lawn. ; )
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Superman may be bad for B&M but it's still a decent ride. I bet if it was walk-on all the time you'd all like it more.
For me, yeah, I only like superman when it's a walk on. That and batman are tough to wait 45min for, same for GASM. Everything is better as a walk on to me..
Wanna make some trades? We offer a wild mouse, and an enterprise for Kingda Ka. Or how about a stunt coaster, and a Jump 2 for El Toro.
If you want to play let's make a deal, I'll only trade Kingda Ka for Volcano: The blast coaster.. but it needs their smurf mountain as the volcano, it's a package deal. Flight of Fear with a few flats could be a substitute, but others will benefit from that far more than me.
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Dkny, I'd say it's more like the rich kid saying that it makes no sense to get the Lexus when he already has a car in a Lambo, and in reality he needs his teeth fixed and money for books in college. It's not about being spoiled, it's about misplaced priorities.
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I don't get how some of you think GASM is an iconic ride. Magnum would be a good example of an iconic ride from that time period. I don't see these two in the same ballpark.
Superman may be bad for B&M but it's still a decent ride. I bet if it was walk-on all the time you'd all like it more.
I intend not to offend by this, but I find it hillarious how you all complain about getting chang. Also how all your coasters are 54". From my perspective it's like listening to a rich kid complain about only getting a Lexus for his 17th birthday, when he got a lambo for his 16th birthday. SFGA has one of the greatest collection of coasters on the planet, and adding chang and scaping Gasm increases that collection. Chang would be the 3rd, or 4th best coaster at most parks. At yours it's the 6th, or 7th! I get you have no flats, and I get there are no "intermediate" coasters. Well my parks got tons of both, and all we ever talk about is how we have so few great coasters. Wanna make some trades? We offer a wild mouse, and an enterprise for Kingda Ka. Or how about a stunt coaster, and a Jump 2 for El Toro. I guess it's one of those the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence things. But believe me when I say this... SFGA has a sweetass lawn. ; )
EXACTLY. Guys, we should appreciate this. Now, all of our coasters are a bit unique. Think about it: You can ride our coasters standing up, flying, with a floor, without a floor, indoor, outdoor ; we have everything. And now, with the (sort of) exception of Rolling Thunder, all of our coasters are smooth (B:TR, ehh). We'll have one of the best coaster collections on this Earth.
And guys, if we get Chang, I'm willing to bet that we'll get a bunch of new flats to go with it. Chang is just the anchor, like Medusa was for the War on Lines. We're not just getting Chang, or getting Shapiro flats, we're getting a reinvented park.
And, I bet if we play our cards straight, we might get that 5D in 2012.
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IF this is all true goodbye GASM I will miss my headaches and awsoeme rides with you
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Most of us aren't losing sleep of GASM being torn down. The issue is it's replacement! There are rides like Rolling Thunder that are in need of a major refurb. We've lost TONS of flats - including staple rides like the swings and bumper cars. We were already slated for a indoor 5D theater (yet another loss of an attraction since they ripped out the old one already). I could go on and on. They should fix the crap they have and replace the rides they ripped out before tearing down a ride that works to replace it with a used ride that will give them a 1 year boost at the gate for 10 million bucks. But that's just my opinion and what do I know???
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I totally get what your all saying. It's just hard to listen to when the best loopers at my park are a Vekoma SLC, a Vekoma Boomerang, an old Arrow Looper, and a Togo Stand-up. I feel a little sad just thinking about it. Well at least we don't have just about the 2 worst woodies in the world. Oh wait...
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You have a great suspended coaster. Enough reason for me to visit again.
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I forgot about our flyer! Oh wait, it's the worst coaster in history. lol
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No, the one at Elitch Gardens (being relocated to Coney Island) is the worst one! ;)