Great Adventure Outpost
Industry => Industry News => Topic started by: Millennium Force 44 on April 09, 2007, 10:42:17 PM
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Although I only got a chance to ride El Toro once, due to the never ending lines, I think it was one of the best roller coasters I have ever ridden. It was a hot day in June and I waited on line, for the front row, for over 3 hours. El Toro instantly made it to my top 10 coasters list. I never had such an intrest in wooden coasters until I rode El Toro. After researching different wooden coasters, especially the new era of woodies, I constantly question whether Great Adventure's El Toro or Holiday World's The Voyage is a better wooden coaster. I have never ridden The Voyage, but I want to so badly. If anyone has ever ridden both El Toro and The Voyage, I would like to learn about your opinions on the two coasters. Even if you have only ridden El Toro, or neither, let me know what your view is on these two breathtaking coasters.
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One of these two rides has strong airtime, a glass smooth ride, a breath-taking lift hill, the steepest drop of any wooden coaster and, though not my favorite wood by any means, is tremendously exciting and fun. The other coaster has a more exciting ending and is located in Indiana, very close to perhaps one of my very favorite wood coasters, the much under-rated Raven.
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Raven na Legend is better
The Voyage is everything you read and more if you ride it at night.
Chuck and I rode it in the front the back in the day and back seat at night a few times each.
The first ride I wasn't impressed until I rode it again and again then at night.
Its a wild out of control ride which I love.You actually get a workout riding it.
I also love Toro but it seems to slow a bit near the end.
The Voyage just has so much out of control speed and with it being longer gives it an advantage.
Its like 2 coasters in one.
if parks want to increase attendance build one of these (half the cost of Nitro).
Fly out to Columbus for $49 grab a rental car
stop at Kings island $24 ACE discount
Stop at SFKK - free SF pass
then Holiday World $24 ACE discount
I'm may be going back this year who wants to go ?
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^ I want to go, but will i go is the real question...
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I'd take El Toro over Voyage any day. Voyage was just too intense for my tastes. When at Holiday World, I'd much rather be riding Raven.
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How are the lines at Holiday World? It seems like there wouldn't me much of a wait for anything.
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Ha! Holiday World's business has increased markedly. The lines, like at any park, can be anything from non-existent to hours.
The waterpark gets a LOT of business. Sometimes, on very hot days, the dry park has very few lines, while the waterpark is swamped.
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And with only 3 coasters, the lines don't truely spread well.
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The crews there are really good though and they have a ton of flats there to spread out the lines.
Oh and to which one I think is better, I like them both!
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Hmm... El Toro or Voyage... I know I like Voyage more, but El Toro is definatly up there with my favorites as well...
I'll do a pro/con list of each ride...
Pro's : The Voyage
- Setting in the woods
- 8 tunnels
- Abrupt airtime
- Double down into turnaround
- The most intense coaster I've been on
- Triple down in the tunnel
- No Brakes (on)
- The Last 90 degree turn rules.
- It gets faster as you get closer to the end of the ride
- Not a lot of down time
- It beats you up real good
- The small hill that throws you to the left after the first tunnel and near top speed.
- The reverse banking and bunny hop in the helix
Con's: The Voyage
- It's 14 hours away from my house (driving)
- The Lackluster airtime on the first 3 hills
Pro's : El Toro
- It's close to home
- First Drop
- Amazing airtime on the first 2 hills
- Smoothness
- Setting on the lake
- Cable lift
- Twister section
- Hill Over RT
- Trains are comfy (for people not too tall)
- Theming
Con's: El Toro
- Down Time
- Long Waits
- Slow dispatching
- Doesn't beat you up like a wooden coaster should
- Looses so much speed going through the turns at the end... it should give crazy airtime over the last 2 or 3 hills
- The small hill after the first turnaround
- The need to be stapled.
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I don't like being beat up... :P
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Fress you said it all
I totally agree
I think you left out a much longer ride/Voyage
also this may be the best reason I like it more
"It gets faster as you get closer to the end of the ride"
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I've often wondered if Intamin always intended for the end to be that slow. Nearly all of their rides slam into the brakes at the very end. Never been on Voyage but I do have to agree with Toro running out of gas at the end being one of its main cons.
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Yeah, those first two hills on Voyage I was like uhhh....
Basically, what I feel is that if you like airtime you will choose El Toro and if you like the out of control feeling you would like Voyage.
I like both so it's a tough choice!
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I like both air time and out of control...as between the two of them for the best wood in the USA, I choose the Georgia Cyclone....or Tremors when it has been running all day long. But if I have to pick between JUST El Toro and Voyage, I'll pick El Toro every time. And I live a darn sight closer to Holiday World than to Great Adventure. I get to the former about once a year...I usually try to hit Great Adventure AT LEAST three times.
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I cant wait to ride The Voyage in may!!
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Have fun MForce. I wish I could take a trip to Holiday World, but since it is so far away, that isn't happening anytime soon. :'(
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I'll be there riding it with him, I'll make sure he loves it ;)
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Hey, when are you guys going?
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I will be missing Holiwood nights this year :'(but may try to get out there later this season. :)
I will be coming back from Florida a fews days before.
But I may go to the Hershey event on Saturday ERT on Storm Runner :)
Anyone heading out to Coastermania ?
I may be driving out myself so far, or
if anyone needs more people to ride with them and help with cost.
Looking to ride share.
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9 Roller Coasters That Will Scare You Absolutely Silly
#1. The Voyage
read the rest below
http://tinyurl.com/2fstld
www.realsimple.com/realsimple/package/0,21861,1600404-1600547,00.html?rid=triptips
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Hey, when are you guys going?
May 18th and 19th for Hollywood Nights, I can't wait!
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Rub it in Chuck >:(
I can't believe I'm missing it :'(
I have a free stay in Universal with Tina around that time
maybe later in the Year when Son of Beast opens I can get out that way ?
Chuck you heading out to Coastermania ?
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I might, it all depends on how much money I have. The week before I will be in Wildwood for four days.
If I don't go to CP then, I am definitely making it out there in September.
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9 Roller Coasters That Will Scare You Absolutely Silly
#1. The Voyage
read the rest below
http://tinyurl.com/2fstld
www.realsimple.com/realsimple/package/0,21861,1600404-1600547,00.html?rid=triptips
Thats a really bad list to be honest.
No TTD or Ka on the list. I don't think Goliath would be scarier than MF either.
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Yes a scary coaster would be TTD or KK just due to the shear speed and height and drop.
this is just one mans opinion and not a good one
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Quick question about El Toro and The Voyage; Which coaster has more airtime? better airtime?
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The Voyage has a World record airtime of I think 24.2 seconds
El Toro has probably less then half of that
but El Toro has a lot of Extreme Ejector airtime probably the most on any coaster.
Overall The Voyage is a more Compete ride
Just ask Chuck he Loves El Toro (as we all do) and it took him 50+ times on The Voyage to make it his #1 over El Toro.
it is also my #1 coaster ( The Voyage ) a night ride is a must
Voyage Facts and on ride video
www.holidayworld.com/voyage_video.html
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El Toro has better air IMO but the overall ride on the Voyage seals the deal for me!
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I had the same idea about the amount of ejector airtime El Toro has. I can definately trust both of your answers, pcman and Chuck, because after so many rides on both coasters, I know you are not being biased.
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for the front row, for over 3 hours.
really? I've waited only 20 minutes for the last row and my friends only 25-30 minutes for the front... we have been very lucky ;D we have ridden ET 5 or 6 times in 2 days, and wait times are always the same ;)
however, I don't ride the voyage yet (and I don't know when I'll ride it :( i live too far!!) but I think that ET is the best roller coaster in the world, so I prefer ET :) ::) ;)
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really? I've waited only 20 minutes for the last row and my friends only 25-30 minutes for the front... we have been very lucky ;D we have ridden ET 5 or 6 times in 2 days, and wait times are always the same ;)
Well, what happened was, it was about 3 weeks after El Toro opened to the public, and there was only one train running. On top of that, there was a big concert that night, which really brought the crowds in. Those are my guesses as to why I waited three hours for the front row on El Toro.
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You should have went to the back row.
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You should have went to the back row.
When I was at Great Adventure about 2 or 3 weeks ago, I sat in the last row on El Toro. The airtime, especially on the first drop and Rolling Thunder crossover, is undescribable.
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the last row is fantastic :) :)