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Title: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on March 16, 2009, 12:45:36 PM
Supposedly for a one year renovation effort:

http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1260267.html (http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1260267.html)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 16, 2009, 01:00:28 PM
Wow!

Better get back to SFoT this year before they ruin it. ;)

I do like Shapiro's comment about making it faster though. All of the trim brakes kill the raw power of the ride. I would love to get a trimless ride. If it's going to take a year to do, it sounds like they want to completely rebuild the ride from scratch which is probably their best option. I hope they keep a wood structure and don't opt for a steel one. And I'm guessing it will sport single-bench cars, so perhaps The Gravity Groups Timberliners...
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: darkridedan on March 16, 2009, 01:01:05 PM
Mmmhmm
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on March 16, 2009, 05:50:59 PM
I'm just hoping it isn't temporarily closing like certain parts of Great Adventure and Kentucky Kingdom have "temporarily closed."
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: WadeJ on March 16, 2009, 05:54:35 PM
Nah.. they are specifically targeting this ride to celebrate their anniversary so I think were safe.  Honestly, I'm happy to see Six Flags reinvesting in the existing rides.  Even Disney has to suck it up and gut Space Mountain and rebuild it so they must intend on keeping the Giant.  Now if only we could see RT getting the same treatment :)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on November 16, 2009, 08:13:31 PM
Major redesign on Texas Giant coaster begins at Six Flags Over Texas:

Quote
...There will be big changes will be to the track and cars. Martindale promised a steeper, faster ride loaded with special effects.

“The profile is going to be substantially different,” Martindale said. “We’re probably going to change 15 percent of the track configuration.”...

http://www.star-telegram.com/topstories/story/1766026.html (http://www.star-telegram.com/topstories/story/1766026.html)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on November 16, 2009, 11:36:44 PM
Ugh. I'm not liking what I'm hearing. The ride needs no re-profiling at all. It just needs to go at its design speed and be smoothed out a bit. Then it will be a top 5 woodie again.

Special effects... yuck.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: dkny6363 on November 16, 2009, 11:39:31 PM
special effects have NO place on wood. Terminator Salvation look OKish but it's just unnecessary.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on November 17, 2009, 01:32:37 PM
Ugh. I'm not liking what I'm hearing. The ride needs no re-profiling at all. It just needs to go at its design speed and be smoothed out a bit. Then it will be a top 5 woodie again.

Special effects... yuck.

I wish I liked that ride. I saw it's potential, but I see this as a plus for the ride regardless of what they do to it.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on November 17, 2009, 02:59:23 PM
If it was going fast and smooth, you would have liked it about as much as Voyage, Rob.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 17, 2009, 03:45:41 PM
Looks like a very good ride, hope they keep it to The Texas Giant instead of renaming it like the other rides that got special effects.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on November 17, 2009, 03:47:41 PM
Am I smelling a Bizzaro? (Just Kidding!)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 17, 2009, 03:49:25 PM
oh god I hope not.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: kingdakafan on November 18, 2009, 02:51:55 PM
well lets look at a list of upcoming movies.
http://www.themovieinsider.com/movie-releases/-/2010/ (http://www.themovieinsider.com/movie-releases/-/2010/)
some possibilites?
heres some more that are planned, but are still in the works
http://www.themovieinsider.com/movie-releases/TBA/2010/ (http://www.themovieinsider.com/movie-releases/TBA/2010/)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 18, 2009, 03:52:15 PM
It's still doubtful
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on November 18, 2009, 06:13:57 PM
If they want to "plus" a ride, they should do it to Titan. It can't get any worse.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on November 18, 2009, 06:20:28 PM
Ya they should I heard Titan was good though?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 18, 2009, 06:26:17 PM
You must of heard from the wrong person. Everyone who told me said that it was the worst hyper coaster ever.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on November 18, 2009, 06:31:24 PM
It's tall and has POWERFUL positive G's in the two helices, but it only has about three hills and one spot of airtime. It's not my kind of ride at all. But it's still better than a Boomerang. I'd much rather ride the kiddie mine train though.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 18, 2009, 06:48:20 PM
there's a lot of things better than a boomerang, IMO. I've never been on Titan, so I'm going off of others' opinions.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on November 18, 2009, 07:57:59 PM
Titan's cousin (Twin?)Goliath @ Magic Mountain was pretty lame. The centrifuge helix was great...but the drop left airtime to be desired, the hills lacked air, and it didn't really carry it's speed well.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 18, 2009, 08:07:31 PM
Let's hope the new trains don't do that to the Texas Giant.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on November 18, 2009, 11:08:54 PM
Titan and Goliath are virtually twins, but Titan has an extra helix to burn off some of the speed going into the midcourse block brake. It's kind of funny looking at Titan's turnaround (2nd hill) as you can tell it was designed to cross over Colossus like Goliath does at SFMM. It's a shame they didn't reverse the entry and exit to the turnaround for a nice kick of airtime. As is the drop is blended into the turn like GCI used to do a lot.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 19, 2009, 02:41:26 PM
I never will understand why they have a midcourse block brake on some rides. It just ruins the momentum of the entire ride.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Steve on November 19, 2009, 04:57:14 PM
It makes it possible/easier to run 3 or more trains.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on November 19, 2009, 06:26:43 PM
But it's very difficult to run three trains today due to slow ride ops and stupid guests with all of their valuable lose articles. Titian especially has trouble efficiently running three trains. Rides like this would be better off with only two trains and no block brake. The ride would be much more exciting and there should be no stacking and a minor drop in capacity (if any).

That said, the midcourse brake on Titan (and Goliath) is NEEDED to keep the riders from dying in the subsequent helix. I can't imagine the G's in that thing without coming to a near complete stop on the midcourse first. Even crawling off the brake, the helix is the most powerful moment of positive G's I've experienced on over 500 coasters.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on November 19, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
I never will understand why they have a midcourse block brake on some rides. It just ruins the momentum of the entire ride.

http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff/blocking.html (http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff/blocking.html)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 19, 2009, 08:21:14 PM
thanks matt and reggie. That makes it much clearer. So how rough does the Texas Giant get?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on November 19, 2009, 08:37:14 PM
It gets pretty rough! lol  On its bad days it makes Rolling Thunder seem pretty darn smooth, but on its good days, it's not much worse than Rolling Thunder, yet fast and furious like El Toro's twister section before the two dead hills at the end. Sorry for the bit of a run-on sentence there.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on November 20, 2009, 02:34:09 PM
They should use the timberliners on the Texas Giant, if it gets that rough.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on November 20, 2009, 06:16:16 PM
Since Six Flags isn't willing to put enough effort into frequent track TLC, yes, they certainly should put Timberliners on the Giant. I'd rather that ride run consistently well than occasionally amazing and often terrible. It was terrible when Rob and Chuck were with me in 2007.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: PcMan on March 04, 2010, 12:21:47 PM
Six Flags Over Texas introduces new track design for Texas Giant renovation (Mar. 3, 2010) The Texas Giant's $10 million makeover officially got underway this week at Six Flags Over Texas.
Check out the RED TRACK  yes its steel not 9 layer laminated wood

(http://www.amusementtoday.com/image/March2010/SFOT-Reps.gif)

During a press introduction Wednesday, the Arlington, Texas park, debuted the newest in track design for the traditional wooden coaster with the unveiling of Iron Horse Coaster track. The steel I-beam design is the result of three years of engineering. The Chinchillian Red painted track is not bent, but is cut, then welded together in 40 to 53-foot lengths before being bolted to the Texas Giant's wooden support structure. The new track design does not use any wood on the track bed, nor does it use any track bolts. A newly engineered galvanized ledger design, that the Iron Horse Coaster track bolts to, acts as the spine/backbone for the steel railed track. Weight of the new track is said to be about the same as the former 9-ply wooden track complete with steel track and track bolts.

The park also announced that when the new Texas Giant opens in spring 2011, it will stand 153 feet tall, 10 feet taller than it is now, feature a 79-degree first drop and will incorporate numerous 95-degree banked turns throughout the ride. The coaster will also be faster, reaching speeds of 65 mph.

"This ride is going to take the entire industry by storm," said Steve Martindale, Six Flags Over Texas park president. "Six Flags has built a reputation for developing original ride concepts and the Texas Giant will be our crowing jewel." Construction of the super hybrid coaster will be done by Rocky Mountain Construction Group of Hayden, Idaho.

Other details about the Texas Giant's renovation have yet to be to be announced.

(http://www.amusementtoday.com/image/March2010/TxGiantQuad.gif)

source
http://www.amusementtoday.com/ (http://www.amusementtoday.com/)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 04, 2010, 12:41:30 PM
LAME. It's no longer a wood coaster.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: CoasterPrince on March 04, 2010, 01:49:13 PM
79 degree first drop?!? Will this be the best woodie in America soon if not the world!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: kingdakafan on March 04, 2010, 02:48:40 PM
LAME. It's no longer a wood coaster.
so is it now a hybrid like Gemini?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on March 04, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
wait im confused what is the red thing?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on March 04, 2010, 09:02:44 PM
Track....
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on March 04, 2010, 09:09:55 PM
Ohhh I kindof see in the picture now
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: dkny6363 on March 04, 2010, 11:20:42 PM
This whole thing is very strange.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on March 05, 2010, 06:48:59 AM
...which is what many in the US said about El Toro as it was being built...
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: WadeJ on March 05, 2010, 10:19:08 AM
I'm sorry but this is crap.  Glad I already rode it over 20 times.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: kingdakafan on March 05, 2010, 10:51:39 AM
I never will understand why they have a midcourse block brake on some rides. It just ruins the momentum of the entire ride.

http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff/blocking.html (http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff/blocking.html)
Quote
The Rule:
Thou shalt not allow more than one train to occupy any block, at any time, for any reason, lest thy trains collide resulting in much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
the last half is prob the reason for them ;D
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Bubba Z on March 05, 2010, 02:56:03 PM
Now I really don't care if i miss it this summer. It's no longer the real thing.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on March 05, 2010, 07:34:55 PM
As I said on ThrillNetwork:

If Six Flags calls this a woodie, and everyone follows suit, can I call The Voyage and Hades steel?  But I do appreciate that the steel rails are wooden rail-shaped. Shall we call them...Stwooden?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Steve on March 05, 2010, 07:46:20 PM
I wish I went on it...
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on March 05, 2010, 11:59:04 PM
Wasnt it like Rolling Thunder, like pothole wise?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 06, 2010, 12:47:56 AM
No it just shook you all night long, sometimes too much. But it was a wild, out of control woodie. Now it's going to be like Gemini and Excalibur.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on March 06, 2010, 08:12:00 AM
Compare and contrast Hercules and/or Son of Beast...
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on March 06, 2010, 07:55:52 PM
Now I really don't care if i miss it this summer. It's no longer the real thing.
Shockwave back seat and Mr Freeze are the lick. You'll be fine
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: kingdakafan on March 07, 2010, 11:46:37 AM
if you didnt already know apparently the new trains are supposed to be made by (wait for it...) Gerstlauer. ugh.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 07, 2010, 11:07:47 PM
It's a steel coaster now. I'm not concerned about the G-trains. They roll on steel ok.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: dkny6363 on July 02, 2010, 01:30:46 PM
Just read on screamscape, Texas Giant when it reopens will have a 79 deg. first drop. The steapest drop on any wood coaster. Whether or not it's still a wooden coaster is up for debate.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: overlord on July 02, 2010, 01:48:47 PM
They are taking a damn long time to build this stupid thing...
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 02, 2010, 04:29:37 PM
They are practically rebuilding the whole ride. ;)

Word is Colossus, Rattler and American Eagle will get the same treatment, as long as the company is satisfied with the results. Of course I believe that came out of the old management, so who knows now. BTW, I believe about half of Colossus' trackbed is already steel anyway.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on July 05, 2010, 09:50:45 PM
American Eagle I can see, but colossus might be getting that treatment because everyone shows favoritism towards a coaster packed park within 50 miles of celebrity city.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 05, 2010, 11:17:56 PM
How is changing a woodie to a steel coaster, to save on maintenance, a sign of favortism to Magic Mountain?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on July 06, 2010, 06:54:39 PM
Don't know, I kind of got ahead of myself on that post. But how much is really being invested towards maintenance on colossus, anyway?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 06, 2010, 07:38:44 PM
Much more than the park wants to spend, I assure you. Hence why they already replaced a substantial amount of the wood track with steal I-beam years ago. Making a wood coaster a steel coaster is not a good thing. I wouldn't be jealous of any park getting the "treatment".  Rolling Thunder does not need this. It just needs to be maintained and properly greased and perhaps some magnetic brakes so the grease won't make the trains fail the slide test.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on July 06, 2010, 08:13:47 PM
I thought they were putting it all in at once like Texas Giant. It was really that bad to where it's partial steel in areas?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on July 06, 2010, 08:26:16 PM
And the average rider hadn't even noticed.  The distinction between what is wood and what is steel is more of an artificial one than most think...Few even knew what had been done to that California woodie until after plans for Texas Giant were announced.  After the debate as to whether TG would become steel started, a few park employees leaked the SFMM news about that wooden coaster and what has been done.  Some places some would call it steel while much of the original track remains.  What say ye now?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 06, 2010, 10:05:49 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about. I first heard about Colossus having steel track sections back in 2006, long before the Texas Giant thing came to light. It's kind of subtle on Colossus as the haven't replaced all of the wood, but I reckon the Texas Giant treatment is going to feel more like Gemini/Excalibur than... wood. I'm not disputing the public's blissful ignorance to such things.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on July 06, 2010, 10:07:08 PM
You, sir, are much more knowledgeable than even the average thoosie.  And that's a good thing, I think.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 06, 2010, 10:17:46 PM
LOL  Thanks. :)

Honestly I thought Colossus' situation was common knowledge long before now.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on July 06, 2010, 10:49:49 PM
Lance Hart had no idea.  Snicker.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 06, 2010, 11:07:47 PM
Is there any key story you can point to that started the widespread realization of Colossus being less of a wood coaster? I missed it I guess.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on July 07, 2010, 06:35:14 AM
See the 3/11, 3/12 and 13/10 entries under Texas Giant here:

http://www.screamscape.com/html/six_flags_over_texas.htm (http://www.screamscape.com/html/six_flags_over_texas.htm)

Surprisingly, Lance has not gone back and edited this (yet, read quick) to take out any indications of surprise!

Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 07, 2010, 12:38:15 PM
Wow, interesting. Can't believe he didn't know that already.

I thought I had heard American Eagle had some steel too, but was surprised to hear about Texas Giant's first drop and Psyclone having some.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on July 07, 2010, 09:18:18 PM
I rarely hear of anything that happens out there. Usually when I do it's from this site, anyway.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Edwardo on July 14, 2010, 12:31:11 PM
I don't understand why they would do it to American Eagle, as it seems to be fairly well maintained anyways.  Sadly, Colossus has been so poorly maintained (as well as other rides at that park under former management) that giving it the Texas Giant treatment might make it ridable.

I can see it being done to Rattler, as it's a big wooden coaster that really takes a lot of money to maintain, and isn't pulling in a lot of riders.  I could see this being done to Son of Beast too, if CF is so inclined, and maybe even Mean Streak.

I think for the smaller woodies, like AM Eagle, Rolling Thunder, etc, good maintenance would suffice, but on the larger wooden coasters that maintenance isn't going to help, this kind of transofrmation isn't terrible.  Heck, I wouldn't be riding Mean Streak or SoB unless they did something drastic anywho.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: WadeJ on July 14, 2010, 12:38:26 PM
Assuming there isn't another American Eagle other than the one at sfga,then I would be totally opposed to this. After riding it just last night, I'd ask they don't change a thing. It was one of the best coaster experiences I've ever had and it's just fine the way it is! Maybe the only spot that could use to help is the mini helix right at the end but that's it!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 14, 2010, 12:42:18 PM
American Eagle a small woodie? It's got a 147 foot drop and 4650 feet of track (per side) for crying out loud!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: ChuckR on July 14, 2010, 02:44:26 PM
(http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/tx_giant_fd.jpg)

 :o
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Edwardo on July 14, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
No Matt, you're WRONG!  O0

I meant that as in, it isn't a mega woody like Mean Streak, Rattler, TX Giant, SOB, etc.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on July 14, 2010, 06:27:11 PM
I think it is definitely a megawoodie, but regardless, it's too tall and fast for its own good (the way it was constructed), so I'm not surprised at all that they would invest in this.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on July 14, 2010, 09:12:34 PM
I would think its a stwoody ;)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on December 01, 2010, 06:28:18 PM
They got some more pics up on TPR... This thing is starting to look a little like something you make on a computer for hahas.

Link:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=968703 (http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=968703)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on January 20, 2011, 11:12:37 PM
first test run.....
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=585452468424 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=585452468424)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: WadeJ on January 20, 2011, 11:20:48 PM
Very freaky. It makes strange noises but seems to take the course well. Curious to see what a full train does.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: PcMan on January 21, 2011, 10:15:09 AM
YouTube video taken from a helicopter showing the
TX Giant, but not the test run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE5n2UUFo00#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE5n2UUFo00#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: ChuckR on January 21, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
Texas trip in 2012!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Edwardo on January 21, 2011, 02:16:27 PM
Why wait?  2011.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: ChuckR on January 22, 2011, 07:56:03 AM
Cause I won't be in the US all year.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on February 01, 2011, 05:16:54 PM
Full train test run!!!
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=586967776734&oid=65853440990&comments (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=586967776734&oid=65853440990&comments)

Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on February 01, 2011, 05:39:03 PM
Robb Alvey would NOT approve.  Six Flags had the nerve to watermark their intellectual property (now why would that bother any honest copyright respecting person?).

Separately, AWESOME!  Wow's planning a trip to a place he goes not often.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on February 01, 2011, 06:45:45 PM
Did I see a tunnel on it? when the train is making the final run back it isn't shown for a split second. I like how smooth the train looks going around the layout but I'm kind of miffed that the train looks like it creeps over some of the hills, but a view from a camera and the real life experience are totally different things.

I'm pumped for this either way, and I would look forward to a texas sized trip during the summer. If my mom could finally have the job offering finalized I would like to do Fiesta Texas, Over Texas and even hit up Kemah Boardwalk and the Bullet's new train, too.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on February 01, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
Don't knock creeping over a hill until you've tried it!  See also The Coney Island Cyclone! :)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: WadeJ on February 01, 2011, 07:09:24 PM
I'm totally stoked about this ride.  Can't wait!  For those that are interested, below is a video I shot of the Giant back in 2002 (with ride operator permission - we were the only peeps on the train) and after what I've heard happened to it over the years, I'm really glad I got to ride it back in the day.  But this looks impressive!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: WadeJ on February 01, 2011, 07:11:22 PM
Part 2 of the Old Giant...

EDIT: btw- digital cameras sucked back in 2002 lol
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Ogolo on February 01, 2011, 07:51:19 PM
Hello sister is Texas. 
I'm coming for a visit!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on February 01, 2011, 08:54:25 PM
Don't knock creeping over a hill until you've tried it!  See also The Coney Island Cyclone! :)

Coney Island Cyclone would be better if it didn't creep over its hills.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on February 01, 2011, 08:56:02 PM
Nah, it'd just be The Georgia Cyclone, without the fun parts.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on February 01, 2011, 09:19:31 PM
Looks fun, but slower in a couple of parts than I hoped. We shall see how it turns out.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on February 01, 2011, 09:21:57 PM
^Right because going faster would make it un-fun. And Millennium Force would be even less boring if it went slower.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on February 01, 2011, 09:56:04 PM
Volcano: The Blast Coaster was even more fun the first season, when, due to electrical problems, it could not launch full blast.  Speed is over-rated.  Then again, see Beast.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on February 01, 2011, 10:29:21 PM
Funny, 'cause the fun thing to do on Volcano is get in line for the front seat at the end of the night and get the whole train to yourself at full launch power = FAST! Just ask Fissbeking. We call it "doing the Volcano thing". LOL

Beast would be better with no brakes. ;) I'm hoping they eventually put Timberliners on it and let it run full-out. As much as I love them, the 3-bench PTC's eat up the track due to their inability to steer through all of those turns, hence the need for the brakes.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Steve on February 01, 2011, 10:41:43 PM
I have a picture of them unloading Volcano because it rolled back. Sucked because I was the next train.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on February 01, 2011, 10:50:17 PM
Oh man, a Volcano roll-back would be awesome!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Steve on February 01, 2011, 11:01:53 PM
Found it! I think it was from '06.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/cns/Summer%2006/VolcanoUnload.jpg)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on February 02, 2011, 10:31:02 AM
I remember the last time I went to King's Dominion, Volcano was opening later in the day due to an "incident" a few days before. Of course that was like 2002...
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: GADVwow on February 02, 2011, 06:55:24 PM
I have rolled back on Volcano...but in the back seat of the train!  Yes, it's awesome...and I adore Volcano...it is the ONLY non-hyper steel coaster I even bother to count.  I wouldn't count it, but it makes me! :)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on March 09, 2011, 05:25:19 PM
POV over at SFOT's Facebook page... http://www.facebook.com/sixflagsovertexas (http://www.facebook.com/sixflagsovertexas)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: ChuckR on March 10, 2011, 11:24:37 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Bubba Z on March 10, 2011, 01:27:44 PM
"Just rode the back 3 times....OMG! El Toro has met its match. The airtime is just so wicked, especially the drop, double up, and drop by the station. However the little hill between the 3rd overbank and the mcbr is the most insane hill ever...like Toro over RT just with more giving lapbars...the trains are awesome."

hmmm .. posted on a coaster site : )
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 10, 2011, 06:00:22 PM
Read some reviews on that site. Sounds way better than El Bull!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Ogolo on March 12, 2011, 10:59:25 AM
So is it finally time for that third coaster category?
The reviews on "that" site make it sound like a wonderful ride.
But they do seem to do that with every new ride.
Good job Six Flags and thanks Mark Shapiro!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 12, 2011, 01:20:26 PM
It's a kickass Mine Train on steroids.. STEEL COASTER. Calling it a "hybrid" is just marketing. Voyage and countless other wood coasters have a steel structure. So are they reverse hybrids? ;)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: ChuckR on March 12, 2011, 01:44:47 PM
It looks awesome! I think I know where I'm going one weekend in 2012...
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 06, 2011, 11:38:52 PM
I have a date with Shock Wave and Texas Giant II on September 3rd and Boardwalk Bullet on September 4th! :)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Bubba Z on April 07, 2011, 09:49:06 AM
Texas Giant will be the # 1 coaster of the Season. It will pwn all others.     
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 07, 2011, 10:05:38 AM
Is that what Alvey is telling his slaves to believe?

It could easily be the best steel coaster, but no way is it gonna top Voyage's journey through the woods.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: WadeJ on April 07, 2011, 06:22:31 PM
LOL Bubba
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 07, 2011, 07:01:32 PM
And since it's not an Intamin, how could it possibly be the best. Mr. Alvey?
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Ogolo on April 07, 2011, 07:34:50 PM
A little off topic but..somewhat related.
Anyone know anything about the topper track that the Cyclone at SFNE is getting?
We all know about that back row!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: B-mac on April 07, 2011, 08:20:29 PM
Word has it it has already been placed. I guess they put it in because they thought it would be cheaper and more enduring than regular wood. It's only a part of the coaster, less than 10% of the layout, so I don't believe Cyclone will become a Texas Giant cousin...

On another note, I really hope that few woodies take this course. I can understand colossus taking this course because it's a p.o.s. anyways and even rattler (that thing has like a 10 ft sway in areas!) but I just don't think that EVERY woodie needs this treatment, like Alvey has suggested a few times.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 07, 2011, 09:22:31 PM
The topper track is meant to "fix" problematic areas and not turn the ride into a steel coaster like TG. It replaces the top layers of the laminated wood track with steel, but doesn't have to be put everywhere on the ride. The same wooden coaster rolling stock can coast on the topper track and the traditional wooden track, unlike the full blown "Iron Horse" track that Texas Giant now has.

Since Colossus has been full of steel for years now, topper track is kinda redundant in that situation.

Rattler is a terrible layout as is and never was fantastic before all of the profile changes. A full Texas Giant style redo is more in oder for that ride than TG ever was!
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Bubba Z on April 07, 2011, 10:02:26 PM
every wooden coasters runs on steel.
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 07, 2011, 10:19:10 PM
Thin steel strips on wood. ;)
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: Bubba Z on April 08, 2011, 12:13:45 PM
what about the wheels and upstops ? lol
Title: Re: SFOT Temporarily Closing Texas Giant in2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 08, 2011, 07:35:25 PM
Steel wheels on thin steel strips on laminated wooden tracks. The wood "gives" yielding that feeling only a true wooden coaster can dish out.