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Title: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: PcMan on August 20, 2009, 01:13:54 PM
Kings Dominion to Introduce $25 Million Steel Giga-Coaster In 2010
Intimidator 305 will be the Biggest, Baddest and Meanest on the East Coast

www.intimidator305.com (http://www.intimidator305.com)

Doswell, VA. (Aug. 20, 2009) – The most exciting ride in Kings Dominion’s 35-year history will
debut in the spring of 2010, as the amusement park introduces a mammoth 5,100-foot long steel
Giga-coaster. Intimidator 305 takes it name from one of stock car racing’s most beloved and
tenacious drivers, Dale Earnhardt, “the Intimidator
™” along with the height of the coaster’s lift hill,
305 feet.

Intimidator 305, only the second Giga-coaster ever built in North America, will be the tallest and
fastest roller coaster of its type on the East Coast. The lift hill will stand a towering 305 feet at its
highest peak; descend 300 feet at an 85 degree-angle and thunder along the track at speeds in
excess of 90 miles per hour during its three minute race to the finish. The trains, fashioned after
Dale Earnhardt’s signature black car, will roar through six airtime humps plus three high-speed
turns and the experience will have guests screaming for another lap around the track.

“Intimidator 305 will break records as the single largest capital investment in the history Kings
Dominion,” said Pat Jones, Kings Dominion’s vice president and general manager. “The numbers
speak for themselves, at a cost of $25 million, a lift hill and first drop close to the height of the
park’s landmark Eiffel Tower; you’ll have to see it to believe it.” Intimidator 305 will be located in
the park’s Congo section and becomes Kings Dominion’s 15th World-class roller coaster.

Dale Earnhardt, Inc. will partner with Cedar Fair Entertainment Company, owners of Kings
Dominion, to bring the massive coaster to life. “We’re excited to see this new roller coaster
celebrate the speed and intensity of the legendary career of Dale Earnhardt,” said Jeff Steiner,
executive vice president and general manager of Dale Earnhardt, Inc. “there are millions of fans
that still honor their racing hero and this is a very real way for them to connect with the spirit and
passion of the Intimidator™.”

Guests will have the opportunity to see the ride being built from the ground up during the
remainder of the park’s 2009 season, as well as follow its progress by watching the online
webcam, set up to overlook the entire work site. Those who cannot wait until 2010 may take a
virtual ride on Intimidator 305, access exclusive updates, features, virtual renderings, ride
statistics, and more at www.intimidator305.com (http://www.intimidator305.com).

Intamin AG of Wollerau, Switzerland, a recognized industry leader in roller coaster development,
designed Intimidator 305. The ride is scheduled to open in the spring of 2010.

Ride Stats
- Track Length: 5,100 feet
- Maximum Height: 305 feet
- Lift Hill Angle: 45 degrees
- Length of First Drop: 300 feet
- Angle of First Drop: 85 degrees
- Length of Other Drops: 150 feet
- Airtime Humps: 6 including S-curve transitions
- High Speed Turns: 3 at ground level

- Fastest Speed: Excess of 90 MPH
- Ride Time: 3 minutes
- Hourly Capacity:: 1,350 riders
- Number of Trains: Two
- Vehicles: Four passenger open design trains with overhead lap bars but no over-the-shoulder harnesses

- Investment: $25 million


(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD12.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD11.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD08.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD07.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD06.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD05.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD02.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD01.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD13.jpg)

(http://www.intimidator305.com/_upload/photo_gallery/renderings/KD09.jpg)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: PcMan on August 20, 2009, 01:31:24 PM
Some competition to Kingda Ka and Nitro  ?

the drop and turn reminds me of Hercules

The name will go good with the Race fans in that area and the south.
NASCAR is very very big and has many fans which spend alot of money so I expect all fans that love Dale will HAVE TO RIDE THIS.
I few of my friends are big race fans and have all the "stuff" so they may want to hit the park next year.


Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Ogolo on August 20, 2009, 03:46:43 PM
No on ride speakers making race car noises?
I suppose that is so 2009.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: armystrong62b on August 20, 2009, 04:08:37 PM
not bad
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: overlord on August 20, 2009, 05:27:43 PM
Why the hell yellow supports? And why no grandstands, race track features, etc. They dropped the ball on this I say with going for the NASCAR theme.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on August 20, 2009, 06:23:50 PM
Why cut all the trees down? It could be soooo much better.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on August 20, 2009, 06:27:14 PM
over the shoulder restraints?
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on August 20, 2009, 06:45:14 PM
Why the hell yellow supports? And why no grandstands, race track features, etc. They dropped the ball on this I say with going for the NASCAR theme.

Because that's what happens when an AMUSEMENT park does theming instead of a THEME park. ;)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on August 20, 2009, 06:50:44 PM
I don't get it. Why go 300+ feet when you are going to stay low to the ground most of the time. Over the shoulder restraints?! Not cool. Is the first drop really going to be that undersupported?
On the positive side, the first drop looks absolutely nuts. the ride is basically a "giga mega-lite".
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on August 20, 2009, 07:20:06 PM
Much of the support is in the track structure. Note how beefy it is compared to previous Intamins.

The low to the ground flavor is fine by me, but it needs more hills that pack a punch. Imagine the second half of Supes SFNE coupled on to the end of this ride.

It hasn't been confirmed yet, but it's sounding like there are errors in the renderings and the restraints will not have the shoulder strap part, but just the swing-over lapbar portion. Now that right there would make this ride about 50 coasters better!

Still, why oh why oh why did they have to clear cut the woods. Not like the ride is anything interesting to look at. It would be so much more exciting if it snaked through the woods like Return of the Jedi speeder bikes! :)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: overlord on August 20, 2009, 08:55:42 PM
The OSTR is to simulate the feeling of being strapped into a 5 point harness like Nascar mandates all the cars to use IMO. Its still a disaster in my book and hopefully they can make it better somehow.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on August 20, 2009, 09:41:20 PM
Much of the support is in the track structure. Note how beefy it is compared to previous Intamins.

The low to the ground flavor is fine by me, but it needs more hills that pack a punch. Imagine the second half of Supes SFNE coupled on to the end of this ride.

It hasn't been confirmed yet, but it's sounding like there are errors in the renderings and the restraints will not have the shoulder strap part, but just the swing-over lapbar portion. Now that right there would make this ride about 50 coasters better!

Still, why oh why oh why did they have to clear cut the woods. Not like the ride is anything interesting to look at. It would be so much more exciting if it snaked through the woods like Return of the Jedi speeder bikes! :)

Well, NASCAR drivers don't swerve around trees...no matter how cool it would make the ride. I mean, it seems like a cool ride that could be MUCH cooler, but they misused the speed.  If the +Gs are nice in the twists, then I could tolerate the lack of airtime some.  I don't like that it's strongest hills look like El Toro's weakest hills.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on August 21, 2009, 12:09:13 AM
What? El Toro has weak hills? You mean it's not perfect? The Hell you say! ;)

Ok so you're saying Cedar Fair can use the NASCAR theme as an excuse to get rid of more trees. LOL

It's pretty much just Millennium Force with the overbanked turns on the ground instead of up in the air.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on August 21, 2009, 12:24:44 AM
It's pretty much just Millennium Force with the overbanked turns on the ground instead of up in the air.

I have to completely disagree. It is a large version of Piraten/Kawasemi.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on August 21, 2009, 10:07:28 AM
^With a lot of the hills replaced with flat track on the ground... just like Millennium Force.

It goes up the lift then down the drop into a flat right turn followed by a long drawn out half-sized hill, but not a full height S-curve hill mind you (as Piraten has). Right there the similarity with the megalites ends IMO.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on August 21, 2009, 10:50:35 AM
I see what you're saying Matt, but I mean it's more like a large megalite because of the feel of the ride, not the actual layout. Yes, there are similarities in the layout with a megalite, but it seems like it will ride more like a megalite and the idea of the ride reflects that of a megalite.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on August 21, 2009, 11:21:13 AM
Hehehe Matt.  Yes, El Toro does have 4 weak hills.  I just don't find them flaws like you do.  When it's not cold, or the first thing in the morning, I still get decent airtime on them, and I think the first two weak hills are perfectly placed.  You can really use the breather after the insane out run, and the relative weakness of those hills add an extreme punctuation to the Rolling Thunder hill.  The two hills for the S turns are also weak, but they are still pretty fun with the twisting change of direction while you still get a hint of airtime.

Then after I was happy with that, I had someone point out that El Toro tells as story.  Whether Intamin did it on pupose or not, it fits IMO.  Look at a bull during a rodeo.  It storms out of the gate, bucking like mad, trying to throw the cowboy off of it's back. But, the bull gets tired quick, so he isn't as forceful and starts to spin slightly.  But he gets that last wind and gives you another powerful buck, before he gives up trying to throw you off, and starts spinning.  Just like the powerful bucking, the powerful spinning doesn't last long either, but it is intense.  8 seconds after you started, the wild ride is over as the tired bull trots away, and you stand there victorious.

El Toro follows that pretty closely.  It would be pretty cool if Intamin really did some storytelling with the track.

As for the trees..I guess?  You know CF doesn't believe in things like "trees" and "shade" anyway.  But in any event, NASCAR doesn't say "trees".  If they were going to clear cut the trees, they could have "Bizarro-ed" the ride with some props.  But wait, they're an AMUSEMENT park chain, not a THEME park chain.  That's why the majority of my love goes to THEME parks...even if the world's largest chain lost their way for a while...

In the end, it still looks like a fun ride.  I'll have to get down there next season and ride so I can make my final judgement.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Dubya91 on August 21, 2009, 12:56:46 PM
Guys guys, This is classical Cedar Fair themeing...Concrete!

I am not too thrilled with the layout of the ride, they could of put more over banked turns, and added a bunny hill or two somewhere in there for airtime. Also the OSTRs are brutal on something like this...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: ChuckR on August 21, 2009, 04:00:50 PM
I just think with 25 million they could of built an insane hyper! This just looks too short for a giga for me...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: overlord on August 21, 2009, 04:16:26 PM
Or even a Maverick style ride which I say would fit the NASCAR description alot better.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on August 21, 2009, 04:59:22 PM
The NASCAR theme fell apart after the first right turn...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Dubya91 on August 21, 2009, 05:08:30 PM
They should of went with a launch then, make it something like Xcelerator or Storm Runner....
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: overlord on August 21, 2009, 05:45:19 PM
The NASCAR theme fell apart after the first right turn...

Not if its a road course! ;)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: WadeJ on August 21, 2009, 07:33:16 PM
Lmao - that was awesome Reggie!

And for the record, I'm a Nascar fan lol
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on August 22, 2009, 02:05:40 AM
The NASCAR theme fell apart after the first right turn...

Not if its a road course! ;)

True.  I was about to post that, but chose to ignore it, lol.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Dubya91 on August 22, 2009, 04:15:53 AM
Heh, NASCAR, I find it so exciting to watch cars lap around a road 500 times, going in circles...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on August 24, 2009, 09:16:44 AM
I know what kind of sport is that?

Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: themeparkrider on August 24, 2009, 11:30:09 AM
I mean this in the best way, but you guys are arguing over nothing. Its perfectly fine.  :headbash:  :headbash:  :headbash:
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on August 24, 2009, 05:29:27 PM
Two people arguing about wheather or not nascar is a sport is like a dog lover and a cat lover trying to convert each other. It's a waste of breath. Can't change those opinions.

That being said, Nascar's garbage and dogs are annoying! haha
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on August 24, 2009, 06:16:46 PM
I'm not a fan of NASCAR but I'll admit it's a sport. It may not require the most athleticism, but neither does golf or baseball, and those are also sports.

I think this coaster will be plenty of fun, probably not worth waiting in the line that it will draw, but that's fine by me. I'll get a ride or two on it next year I'm sure, and you'll see me in line for Avalanche and Grizzly most of the day, ending the night at Volcano :)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on August 24, 2009, 06:19:48 PM
I started respecting NASCAR when I found out that their cockpits can reach temps of ~115 degrees during races.  Then, with that going on, they still have to pilot that car at high speeds while avoiding others.  It's a different kind of athletic.  But, I'd still rather watch something than cars making left turns for 500 miles, LOL.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: coastersue on August 24, 2009, 09:17:44 PM
I would've really been looking forward to it if it weren't for the OTSR's.  Instead of riding with my hands in the air, I'll be holding on for dear life trying to avoid being bashed into the OTSR.  If MF can use lap bars, this one can too.  There's no reason to have OTSR's.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Steve on August 24, 2009, 10:35:02 PM
From what I read on other websites, people who attended media day said that the OSTR's were not being used and not everything in the animation is correct.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Dubya91 on August 25, 2009, 08:27:16 AM
I still believe there were better off going with B&M...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: themeparkrider on August 25, 2009, 12:30:20 PM
Its all bout the experience of the coaster
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: kingdakafan on August 25, 2009, 03:19:44 PM
Sounds Cool
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: PcMan on December 17, 2009, 11:39:46 AM

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBvLOmybyZA#noexternalembed&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBvLOmybyZA#noexternalembed&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on December 17, 2009, 03:03:08 PM
I still believe there were better off going with B&M...

B&M won't build 300 feet, and KD has "competition" issues with SFA and BGW, there for they aren't allowed to build a hyper coaster since both parks have one, thus they went with a 300 footer. Intamin was the way to go.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on December 17, 2009, 03:58:33 PM

B&M won't build 300 feet, and KD has "competition" issues with SFA and BGW, there for they aren't allowed to build a hyper coaster since both parks have one, thus they went with a 300 footer. Intamin was the way to go.

How is SFA competition to them? I can see BGW, but SFA?
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on December 17, 2009, 05:02:52 PM
It's within a certain number of miles, and they have a "hyper coaster". I don't have the exact statement from the parks obviously, but KD getting a 300 footer was due to BGW and SFA having hypers.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on December 17, 2009, 05:32:15 PM
I thought diamondback was the response to that.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on December 17, 2009, 05:45:19 PM
Diamondback is in Ohio... Not in the same area of the Mid Atlantic parks
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on December 17, 2009, 05:57:01 PM
For some reason I always mix up the cedar fair rides, my bad.

anyway, I haven't been to KD since the year after Volcano opened, so I don't know much about the park other than the bobsled coaster and grizzly.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on December 17, 2009, 05:57:53 PM
Kings Dominion is in the same marketing area as BGW and SFA.  Kings Island may as well be in Africa to most of the people in the Mid-Atlantic market.  It is a good 9 hour drive from Kings Island to Kings Dominion.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on December 17, 2009, 06:04:53 PM
Unless you're Bubba, then it's an easy day trip. :)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on December 17, 2009, 06:28:58 PM
I still believe there were better off going with B&M...

B&M won't build 300 feet, and KD has "competition" issues with SFA and BGW, there for they aren't allowed to build a hyper coaster since both parks have one, thus they went with a 300 footer. Intamin was the way to go.

Why won't B&M build a 300 footer?
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on December 17, 2009, 06:30:02 PM
I would not assume they would not.  Would a park pay for that these days?  Perhaps so, but I doubt it in North America...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on December 17, 2009, 06:31:02 PM
1) Nobody will pay them enough
2) Research
3) Designing
4) planning
5) very long wait time for 1-4.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: WadeJ on December 17, 2009, 08:08:40 PM
I do recall the specifically pointing out that they wouldn't ever build that high. It would require too many changes to their structure design and the box beam track. I guess never say never but they were the ones that pointed this out at one time.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: jimmybjammin on December 17, 2009, 08:45:55 PM
easily distracted by all of that mud in KD..
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on December 17, 2009, 09:18:40 PM
that's not mud...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on December 18, 2009, 04:39:54 AM
I bet Mr. Kinzel would agree with you right about now...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on December 30, 2009, 10:35:56 PM
I guess that makes sense. It's hard to place another 300 footer in all of N.A. But then again a 300' at KD was a little surprising. I could see magic Mountain maybe. They have an inferior hyper curently that is not a B&M. Plus they are coaster crazy. It kind of follows the mold of CP building MF even though they had Magnum. Other than that there aren't alot of fits. Likely in China.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on December 30, 2009, 10:47:57 PM
China has many height restrictions due to earthquakes.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on December 31, 2009, 01:17:24 AM
China already has two 200' dive machines. Whats another 100 feet?? lol

So maybe Japan is more viable.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on December 31, 2009, 08:46:43 AM
Japan has more earthquakes than anyone (several per day if I recall).

I wouldn't be surprised if SFoT or SFMM got something like this some day. I could even see one going to Great Adventure if they ever figure out how to manage what they currently have without being in danger of bankruptcy.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on December 31, 2009, 08:52:04 AM
Well....let's let them get OUT of bankruptcy first, and see who the them is thereafter...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on December 31, 2009, 10:25:44 AM
That could take a while...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on December 31, 2009, 10:36:04 AM
It should be over by the time the season starts this year at Great Adventure...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on December 31, 2009, 03:27:56 PM
Great Adventure has a 200+ B&M Already plus a 400+ coaster.

What about like Islands of adventure? They are due soon for a new coaster.

I only said Japan cuz they already have a 300+ footer.
Also Hershey would be a good fit for one but I think they have a heighbour problem or at least a height restriction don't they. I'm sure ons of you will fill in the blanks on that situation.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on December 31, 2009, 06:43:11 PM
IoA is well overdue. Their newest coaster is hitting 10 next year.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on January 01, 2010, 08:44:58 PM
I've never been so I don't know the situation but you'd think a new one is due and cost wouldn't be the biggest concern.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Ogolo on January 02, 2010, 01:50:08 PM
I think IoA will be doing just fine with the Wizarding World of Harry Potter.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Mike13 on January 02, 2010, 02:19:07 PM
^Yeah IOA will be just fine with Potter.I wouldn't be suprised if opening day (not including a soft opening if they do one) they reach Capacity.IOA will be crazy crowded for awhile with the addition of Wizarding World of Harry Potter,so they don't have to worry about adding a new coaster,Forbidden Journey will count as the new coaster..
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on January 02, 2010, 06:12:25 PM
All i'm saying is 10 years and counting.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on January 02, 2010, 07:07:57 PM
I believe that both Mr. Kinzel of Cedar Fair and Mr. Story of Six Flags have proven beyond cavil that building a coaster does not financial success guarantee.  The fact it has been 10 years since the last major coaster at IOA does not necessarily mean another will be built any time soon.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on January 02, 2010, 11:23:07 PM
True, definatly true. I'm just saying that may make them more likely than others to be due for one.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on January 04, 2010, 01:38:03 PM
That would be prettty cool if we got a dive machine.  Mhm it would look good in GASM's place
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on January 04, 2010, 03:14:48 PM
I think it was Rj who said it,
"a dive machine is a 20 million dollar band-aid that isn't guaranteed to draw in money in the later future,"
or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on January 04, 2010, 03:19:04 PM
YA that is true but i don't like GASM and a dive machine would go well next to Superman. The Dive machine could be Mr. Freeze. Or we could get a Mr. Freeze like the one in St Luis.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on January 04, 2010, 05:05:53 PM
*we* are currently owned by a company in bankruptcy.  The chances of getting a dive machine in the near future are about the same as the chances of the park lowering admission to $6.95 and having free parking.  It could happen, but is very, very, very unlikely.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on January 04, 2010, 08:08:50 PM
Two Dive Coasters in the U.S. is plenty IMO. I would much, much, MUCH rather see a Mr. Freeze than a Griffon come to Jersey.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: PcMan on January 04, 2010, 10:57:10 PM

I feel like Mr Freeze with these temps.

Yes IOA won't have any new "big" attractions for at
least 4-5 years with the 100-300 million (or whatever the cost is) they are spending on Harry Pot

And with a New COaster at Universal just 6 months ago

Just stay go in Jan-Feb or March  its not to crowed at all sometimes walk ons
last early March THe Hulk was a walk on many time when i was there.

best beat get a Annual pass if you plan on going more then once
when you renew they give you a great price  I have the middle tier pass and paid I think $119

also if you stay onsite you can use your room keycard as a flashpass
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on January 04, 2010, 11:14:59 PM
Never been on mr. freeze, or chiller. Are they not similar?

My bad about IOA I didn't realize that they are literally connected to universal studios. I guess in a way that would make them not over due for a coaster.

Never been on a dive coaster. Not that excitted too either.



Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: rjholla2003 on January 05, 2010, 01:17:51 AM
I think it was Rj who said it,
"a dive machine is a 20 million dollar band-aid that isn't guaranteed to draw in money in the later future,"
or something along those lines.

I don't think it was me, but it's not too far off the truth, lol.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on January 05, 2010, 02:13:41 PM
dive coaster is a 20 million dollar bandaid. It wouldn't even stand out at SFGA after 5 years. It would be like batman. superman, or medusa. Not nitro, ka, or toro. That being said I think it will one day soon replace GASM.

Twas Mine
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on March 29, 2010, 12:27:08 AM
check out the updated teaser video, they added quick pov clips from the actual ride
http://www.youtube.com/user/KingsDominionTV (http://www.youtube.com/user/KingsDominionTV)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 29, 2010, 12:39:20 AM
Oh man, I hope those transitions aren't as painful as they look like they're gonna be with the stupid OTSR jabbing ya in the neck.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: kingdakafan on March 29, 2010, 10:53:23 AM
it looks like too many turns and not enough airtime to me. something that tall should have airtime galore on it.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 29, 2010, 12:34:48 PM
Have you met Millennium Force?

I'm not disagreeing by the way. These super tall coasters always waste their potential.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: nitrorox1414 on March 29, 2010, 06:30:53 PM
I cant wait till its open. KD Finally finally getting on the map.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on March 29, 2010, 06:36:44 PM
until massive ridicule comes from intim's opening day...
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on March 31, 2010, 12:18:44 AM
KD has been on the map for quite a while as far as I'm concerned. That park is great, just no major "stand out" coasters. Avalanche, Grizzly, Volcano and Italian Job are all great rides and I can't think of any coaster in the park that actually "sucks". Plus they have Flyers and Drop Zone :)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on March 31, 2010, 12:22:08 AM
Idk but I was very impressed by Hurler. The turns need to be re-profiled, maybe banked more and smoothened a bit, but the rest of the ride is filled with ejector bunny hops.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on March 31, 2010, 12:23:57 AM
^ Yes Hurler too! Like I said, no coaster in that park sucks. Oh I forgot about "The Cave" too!!
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 31, 2010, 12:27:31 AM
Shoester, those are called laterals. Banking the turns more would make Hurler a GCI. ;)

Banked turns are overrated, just like inversions and El
Toro. :D (hey it's been a while)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on March 31, 2010, 12:32:09 AM
Taxi jam is better than el toro
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on March 31, 2010, 12:45:28 AM
Taxi jam is better than el toro
pleaseeeee. el toro has an awesome first drop and is just pure fun to ride as a coaster in general. Forget about the fact that it may not be a "real" wooden coaster, there is no way you would have more fun riding taxi jam all day than el toro all day.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on March 31, 2010, 12:52:44 AM
:)

I'd prefer to ride neither all day lol.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on March 31, 2010, 06:35:15 AM
And that's exactly what you do most days...ride neither.

Wow, who just HAD to
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Bubba Z on March 31, 2010, 11:33:55 AM
"The lost Treasure Cave "  stealing my thunder are you.  Btw I hate Hurler and Anaconda. Avalanche is my favorite ride, followed by Volcano and a Grizzly tunnel! 
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on March 31, 2010, 02:32:19 PM
"The lost Treasure Cave "  stealing my thunder are you.  Btw I hate Hurler and Anaconda. Avalanche is my favorite ride, followed by Volcano and a Grizzly tunnel! 

I love the bobsled ride, I haven't been there since I was 6. So the only other rides I remember are grizzly, rebel yell, and anaconda.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 31, 2010, 06:33:07 PM
Taxi jam is better than el toro
pleaseeeee. el toro has an awesome first drop and is just pure fun to ride as a coaster in general. Forget about the fact that it may not be a "real" wooden coaster, there is no way you would have more fun riding taxi jam all day than el toro all day.

I fit better on Taxi Jam. Actually, the last two times I was at GAdv, the stupid lapbar on El Toro wouldn't go down "enough" so I wasn't allowed to ride (even though I cleared it on the test seat out front). I can fit on the kiddie coaster without even trying. There's something wrong here. :-/
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on March 31, 2010, 11:58:27 PM
Don't encourage matt about el toro... If you ignore him it will stop... If you argue you will never win. We all know el toro's awesome. Just play along for his sake. ;)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 01, 2010, 12:15:58 PM
You can ignore my teasing all you want. It's still just a great coaster and not the amazing, incredible ride it's cracked up to be.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: PcMan on April 01, 2010, 07:03:06 PM
I
KD has been on the map for quite a while as far as I'm concerned. That park is great, just no major "stand out" coasters. Avalanche, Grizzly, Volcano and Italian Job are all great rides and I can't think of any coaster in the park that actually "sucks". Plus they have Flyers and Drop Zone :)
I agree and if you happen to go with Rob you may get "Extra rides"  :)  
Yes a nice collection  of rides 
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Bubba Z on April 01, 2010, 07:11:55 PM
Tickets,Memebership and Meal plan have been  purchased for the May 1st event!   

 
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 01, 2010, 07:45:51 PM
POV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WpNSImh6Z8#noexternalembed&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WpNSImh6Z8#noexternalembed&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2010, 08:42:53 PM
Not a fan of the restraints.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 01, 2010, 09:52:19 PM
Not a fan of the restraints, the alleged super killer positive G-forces, the trim brake, the wasted opportunity of an ending, and the wasted opportunity of what could have been the all-time greatest steel coaster (next to Space Mountain of course).

Still I am eager to try it, but now I'm more worried about blacking out from the extreme positive G's than taking a beating. Sounds like this might be the first Intamin to kill someone due to positive G-forces. ::)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: WadeJ on April 01, 2010, 10:05:26 PM
I wasn't going to join the OTSR bashing wagon but holy crap, that looks like it hurt.  How did he not mention a thing about that??? I guess he wanted to be able to get video and ride all day without pissing off PR because those turns looked like they hurt!

Put the Millennium Force trains on there and this ride would be freaking awesome.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 01, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
Just take the unnecessary OTSR's off and it would be better than Millennium Force could ever be... unless that first turn is as black-out inducing as it sounds.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on April 02, 2010, 03:03:43 AM

Put the Millennium Force trains on there and this ride would be freaking awesome.

I'd rather Goliath/Titan's trains ;)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 02, 2010, 11:03:48 AM
Oh man, those would be great!
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 02, 2010, 11:04:26 AM
Or Shockwave/Mind Bender trains. :)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on April 02, 2010, 12:11:31 PM
Could this coaster have a similar fate like chiller? Where the otsr become too painful for passengers so lap bars are forced to be installed? Still loving Millennium Force's overbanked turns which could help this coaster out :P
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 02, 2010, 12:52:12 PM
What's so great about overbanked turns? I've never understood the appeal. They are a big reason why I find Millennium Force so boring.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on April 02, 2010, 12:54:26 PM
I doubt they'll ever change the restraints unless they dramatically fail on more than 1 of their coasters...

I agree with the overbanked turn philosophy. Not a big fan. I don't mind them if they are there just to lead into more airtime hills, like the hammerhead on Nitro, but on MF, I'm not impressed. I understand why so many people love MF, it's just not my "cup of tea". From what I'm hearing, I-305 is much better, and for me, it won't take much. Two of my best good friends were at KD this morning, one of whom is a HUGE MF whore, and they said it's amazing and light years better than MF
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 02, 2010, 12:58:17 PM
And only if the courts make them.

How can Sandor be happy with his own product when it beats him up?
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on April 02, 2010, 01:17:16 PM
A while ago I posed the question does this coaster have what it takes to become the #1 steel coaster. I'm thinking the answer may be yes. Bizzaro's stock is dropping.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on April 02, 2010, 01:36:28 PM
I still don't think it does. I'm sure it'll be fun, but #1 status on a coaster with OTSR's that has no inversions seems highly unlikely. To each their own though.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 02, 2010, 01:58:44 PM
Space Mountain still pwns it!
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on April 02, 2010, 03:58:30 PM
I doubt it will take the #1 spot. What is so much better about this than Bizarro? Bizarro has a much better layout, more airtime hills, no OTSR, very good length, a tunnel, no trims on any major airtime hill, and not to mention a nice overbank :). Yes I305 may have a way better first drop, but as a whole, doesnt seem to be a #1 coaster.
Nevertheless I am more anxious to ride now with the positive reviews, but watching the pov reminds me how short the ride is. For hitting 300 feet, so much more could have been done.
As for overbank turns, idk why, but I just love them. They aren't the most exciting elements but they are a work of art in my eyes. I love watching MF speed through its 3 instances of marvel engineering. Now stop bashing MF!! ;)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 02, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
Marvel engineering? LOL
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on April 02, 2010, 09:04:55 PM
I just got two text messages from a friend at the park...

Text #1 - before boarding "There are NO LIGHTS at ALL on the entire layout. I'm genuinely terrified right now lol"

Text #2 - after ride "There IS NO F****** DOUBT that is the best steel coaster I've ever been on. I almost want to say its better than Voyage. That was a religious experience."

Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 02, 2010, 10:08:23 PM
Steve's opinion doesn't count. LOL
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on April 02, 2010, 10:22:22 PM
It's gonna be like MF in the sense that everyone you talk to hates it but some how it still manages to be 1 or 2 in golden ticket awards.

If nothing else it's something to talk about. Steel coasters are so stale lately it seems.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on April 02, 2010, 10:38:06 PM
^ I thought the same thing until I rode Goliath at SFoG.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on April 02, 2010, 11:56:55 PM
Ok im going to have to sign up for the Intimidator event.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 03, 2010, 01:42:14 AM
I want to ride with Shoe so he can see first hand how much I "enjoy" Intamins.

I am eagerly anticipating my first ride. Hope I like it.

And for the record, I know several well-traveled enthusiasts who absolutely love Millennium Force despite it not having any real airtime. Some people really dig speed.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on April 03, 2010, 01:51:35 AM
Lol who's driving?.... I really hope I am free that weekend
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 03, 2010, 01:56:28 AM
Meet at Bubbabees. ;)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: PcMan on April 03, 2010, 03:28:32 PM
I signed up at coastercrew just for this event
I have a guest spot open  :)

from all reviews everyone loves it

there's a 720p HD POV on TPR

Lol who's driving?.... I really hope I am free that weekend
We need a mini bus   :)

any other parks on or after ?
I still need a Six Flags Pass Maybe  Maryland ?

Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on April 03, 2010, 05:00:23 PM
Maybe we'll run down to Carowinds. ;)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: kingdakafan on April 07, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
in case you havent seen it yet here is a pov. but the real funny stuff starts at around 1:26.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WpNSImh6Z8#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WpNSImh6Z8#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: coastersue on April 07, 2010, 04:22:13 PM
I'm definitely not in any hurry to ride this coaster.  It can wait until September.  Those OTSR's have hurt me on every other coaster that has them so I think it's a safe bet to say they'll hurt me on 305.  Seeing the POV only reinforces that.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: jimmybjammin on April 07, 2010, 08:22:23 PM
lol. I didn't realize Intimadator 305 is open already.. Painful turns due to the OTSR remind me of Maverick. I'll keep my hands down the first ride.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: PcMan on April 09, 2010, 12:45:39 PM

Looks very fast
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on June 25, 2010, 01:57:51 AM
update: straps are now on the trains. It almost looks as if they just put padding over the shoulder portion of the restraint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgB9Jpvlsb4#noexternalembed&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgB9Jpvlsb4#noexternalembed&feature=player_embedded)
The entire first drop is still trimmed so I still don't think the ride can be any better from this IMO
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: WadeJ on June 25, 2010, 07:41:41 AM
PLEASE put those on Kingda Ka!!  They actually remind me a lot of the OTSR's on the flyers.  Probably more closer to the Vekomas since B&M still has the steel bars come down as well.  I'm only guessing but maybe Intamin wasn't ready with these in time for the park opening and had to go with the old style as a temporary solution?
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on June 25, 2010, 12:57:03 PM
I bet Sandor said the ride would be fine as is and that KD shouldn't worry. ;)

I'm curious to try the "new version" of i305, now that it's been slowed down and comfy-fied.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Millennium Force 44 on March 09, 2011, 05:58:31 PM
update: test run with new track pieces 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVGMzN-_7Y#noexternalembed&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVGMzN-_7Y#noexternalembed&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 09, 2011, 11:37:12 PM
Looks like the ending is still gonna suck. Darn.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Bubba Z on March 10, 2011, 07:54:08 AM
"I'm curious to try the "new version" of i305, now that it's been slowed down and comfy-fied."

"looks like the ending is still gonna suck. Darn."


Just drive straight to Busch Gardens.  Oh , wait , they don't have that ride anymore.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 10, 2011, 01:09:50 PM
Busch Gardens is dead to me. I'd rather go to KD to ride Grizzly.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: coastersue on March 10, 2011, 03:56:33 PM
Busch Gardens is dead to me. I'd rather go to KD to ride Grizzly.

Sounds like a plan to me!
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Ogolo on March 10, 2011, 05:26:29 PM
I'll only ride it again if Bubba is there to be my co-pilot for the end.
(Although I never did try the new restraints.)
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Robert T Ackerman on March 10, 2011, 10:02:16 PM
Busch Gardens is dead to me. I'd rather go to KD to ride Grizzly.

And Avalanche
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: Bubba Z on March 10, 2011, 10:44:28 PM
^^^^ Hence I said, Oh wait they don't have that ride anymore. 

Ken.. Deal.  As long as you ride the rapid with me. I think that's the only ride I haven't been on yet. 
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 10, 2011, 11:06:03 PM
Their rapids are good value!
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: B-mac on March 11, 2011, 08:47:06 AM
Possible KD trip if I mvoe to VA before the summer. Hard to believe that place will soon be my home park, and I haven't been there in years lol.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: GADVwow on March 11, 2011, 06:09:44 PM
Volcano:  The Blast Coaster.

Gush.

Okay, I'm done now...

Wow, who counts only wood, hypers and Volcano:  The Blast Coaster...that last only because it won't let me not.
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: dkny6363 on March 12, 2011, 12:32:19 AM
Someone who would pick Volcano in the draft therefore then would be ultra wise then is what you are saying.

Canada who just had to. ;)

ps. BC playing a role in these posts ;P
Title: Re: Kings Dominion 300' Giga-Coaster In 2010
Post by: AV Matt on March 12, 2011, 12:37:51 AM
LOL