Holiwood Nights 6/4 & 6/5 2010

[Edwardo]

Starring a ginormous amount of SGFADv peeps?!  (Including Canada, and I forgot to mention meeting him in my report, but since I didn't know him before hand, it'll slide)

We arrived at the hotel just before 6pm.  Matt, Matt, and Gator were already at the park an hour early riding, but the rest of us went to Joe’s room and settled just a bit before heading over.  It was still EXTREMELY hot and uncomfortable.  Even though it was so muggy out, we eventually pulled together, got in the car, and drove over to the park.  The line to pay to get in for Holiwood Nites was rather long, but went swiftly.  Thankfully Wade was my ‘sponsor’ since he had a coaster enthusiast club affiliation.

Once we got in the park we traipsed around and down to the picnic pavilion where everyone else was.  We were there probably 30 to 45 minutes and I was able to meet up with a lot of people I’d not seen in a while and some new people I’d not met before.  Saw (Apollo) Andy Wong for the first time in 7 years.  He’s all growed up now, married, and with a kid (actually, he’s my age, but that’s besides the point).

After a bit we were all let loose to go get food and ride the coasters and rides.  I suggested to Ken & Wade that they ride Raven, then Legend, then Voyage, so we headed to Raven first.  I’d never been too impressed with Raven, save for the 5th hill, so I kind of felt like getting it out of the way for the evening so I could concentrate on Legend and Voyage.

The Raven-  We walked right on close to the back of the train.  Since one of Raven’s trains were on Voyage there was only a 1 train op going on, but the ride isn’t long and the waits to ride wouldn’t be either.  It wasn’t dark quite yet, so I wasn’t even looking forward to the ride.  Man was I unprepared!  This was the first time I rode Raven and absolutely LOVED it.  The last trip I just liked it.  But it was out of control this time.  Every hill was full of airtime, and the 5th hill gave major air off the drop.  I got back to the station and wanted much more.  Raven delivered.  Since no one was in line for our seats, we ended up riding 2 more times, and every time was just as great.  I totally found a new love for Raven.

We headed towards Legend next.  Some wanted to eat, others wanted to ride.  Matt didn’t really want to bother with Legend because he just isn’t much of a fan, but I made him ride.  Again, we walked right onto the train, this time the very back seat.  It still wasn’t dark yet, but it was getting there.

The Legend-From the first drop, I could tell something was different.  I loved Legend on my last visit, but already it seemed even better.  Was I just nostalgic and remembering how much I liked it or was it better?  Every part of the ride delivered.  I loved every second of it, and to me, it seemed better.  The laterals were fun, there was airtime where I didn’t really remember it, and the whole ride felt crazy and out of control right from the first twisting drop.  Legend was hauling thru the course.  I almost felt like I normally do on Voyage, like I was ready to get off before the final helix up to the station.  It was really intense.

After we got off (we may have gotten a re-ride, I don’t recall), Matt was going on and on about how glad he was to have ridden.  He said Legend hasn’t ran that good in the 10 years he’s been going to the park.  So I wasn’t crazy.  I don’t know what Holiday World did to one of my favorite coasters, but I’m happy they did it!  So we headed down to get some pizza and sit with friends.  Service as always was fast and friendly.  I had like 6 pieces of pizza.  Plus it was cool in the restaurant.  It was still hot outside, though.  Once we finished with food we headed down to The Voyage.  This was my only daytime ride of the trip.  My only ‘issues’ with Holiday World are the hills.  They really should add a chairlift.

The Voyage-So here I was back again.  I didn’t care where I sat, I’m not even sure who I rode with because I did so much riding over the weekend.  I remember Voyage being out of control, but not quite like this.  I do know my first ride was in the Red train, and contrary to what some people have claimed, I didn’t notice any difference in the rides I got on the Red or Blue trains.  They felt exactly the same to me.  But Voyage was running in top form.  The first three hills are insane, but the next 3 hills are absolutely crazy.  As soon as you hit that 6th hill out in the woods, the ride just kicks up a notch until you hit the mid course, and I can’t help but laugh the entire time.  The triple down in the tunnel is crazy by the end, and then after that the ride is in overdrive.  But alas, by the 3rd 90° turn, I’m exhausted and want the ride to be over.  Ken & Wade felt the same way.

After we got our ride on, we hung out a bit and I met up with even more old friends.  Ken & Wade agreed that Voyage was a bit much, but they both liked it.  I won’t do any more ride breakdowns for the coasters, but once it got dark outside, Voyage was a different beast.  Ken & Wade & Matt Shoe all thought so as well it seems.  I rode Voyage a couple times and tried to stay hydrated.  Took a look at the front car of the new trains Voyage is getting soon(ish).  Then I headed with different people to different parts of the park to ride Raven and Legend some more.

By the end of the nite I was with Matt and Matt and we were talking to Mike from the Gravity Group.  He was very nice to talk to and we discussed their new trains and why he probably wouldn’t build me a 500’ wooden coaster when I open my own park.  Good call on his part, I think 500’ would be a bit much.  When we realized we were the only ones left, and Mike had to go do whatever it was he was doing (not sure if they were testing the trains that nite or not), we headed to the front of the park, did our song and dance with cars and hotel rooms as Matt still had to check in, and then we stopped by Joe & Company’s room so I could pick up my stuff.  We hung out for about an hour before we made our way to our room (getting lost on the way) to get some sleep (which came very easily).

The next morning I had a hard time getting up.  Matt & Matt were ready, and we planned to ride over with Joe & Steph, but I forgot my ticket, so I had to go back, which meant we had to walk, which put AVMatt in a bad mood (But boy did he walk fast).  We made it in time, though, rented a locker, and followed everyone down to the waterpark for morning ERT.  I would have stopped for breakfast, but we didn’t want to have to wait too long to ride Wildebeest, the parks new water ‘coaster’.  Good call, because the line was already long with just enthusiasts waiting.

Wildebeest-This was a lot of fun.  I was in the back of the raft, which had no back support going up the lift hill, but the ride was a lot of fun and very wet.  I like how it uses LIMs to launch you over the hills, which really did make the ride.  I won’t be counting it as a credit, but I’m glad I got 2 rides in on it.

We headed over to breakfast, which consisted of muffins, fresh fruit and dip, milk, and juice.  It was all very good, actually.  We splashed around in the Bahari wave pool (I’ve still never been in the smaller wave pool) for a bit, and then headed over to the funnel slide before heading back to the wave pool.  Once the park opened we did the enclosed raft slide, the racers, and another single slide before heading over to Pilgrim’s Plunge.

Pilgrim’s Plunge-The line was already quite long when we got there, but the wait wasn’t bad.  Capacity was really good and the line kept moving while we waited.  Once we got into the boat and dispatched, my only ‘problem’ with Pilgrim’s Plunge became apparent as there isn’t any theming or landscaping around the trough that the boat floats in.  A few nice cutouts or even just some shrubs and trees would have made it look much nicer.  The lift up to the top of the drop was very unnerving.  Very.  I’m already afraid of heights, but this was a water ride and those usually don’t bother me.  Anyways, the drop was a lot of fun and we got even wetter than we already were.

We made our way back over to Splashin’ Safari to play around a little bit more before Matt Shoe and I decided to head back to the hotel.  He wanted to get his camera and get ready for the photo walk backs, and initially I did too.  Thankfully we ran into Eric (echovictor) and his friend on the way out and they were heading to the hotel to get ready to head to Bowling Green to go to the Corvette Museum.  I got to the room and passed out, which blew my chances of going for the photo walk back.

Eventually Matt Scott and Gator came to change and get ready to go back to the park, but they too were more tired than they realized, and eventually they were as sound asleep as I was.  We woke up around 6ish, though, and I showered, changed cloths, and we got ready to leave back to the park.

Once we got back we ran into Mike, Kyle, and Frank who were also arriving back to the park.  Our first ride was the Antique Cars, which were quite nice.  We found Matt Shoe, and Matt Scott wanted to take him to get his Howler credit.  But not before we ran into Beth, Mike C., Kevin, and Emily.  Mike A., Gator, and I wanted to ride Liberty Launch, so everyone waited for us.  The ride was much better than it used to be, as there was great airtime on the top of the tower.  We meant to get a walking taco, but headed over to the Flyers next.

As Kevin, Emily and I watched, Mike A. slammed his flyer tub in to a tree (backwards).  It scared everyone on the ground before everyone started hooting and hollering for him (including the ride op, who was shocked).  He was trying to snap, but slammed into the tree instead.  At some point around that time a bunch of us went to ride the dark ride.  My gun wasn’t really working, and I couldn’t hit anything, but the dark ride is still fun.  I really wanted turkey for dinner after that, though.

Matt and Matt went over to Holidog’s area as the rest of us went to get me my walking taco, which the park no longer serves, so I had nachos instead.  The cheese would cause quite the commotion later as we sat for a spell.  Eventually some when here and there, Beth and Mike C. went to shop, and by that point since I’d forgotten to charge the camera, I went looking to see if by chance Holiday World carried the Kodak battery I needed.  Sadly I didn’t see any, so all of my pix for the rest of the nite were iPhone pix (Still no good pix of Legend, darn it!).

We all eventually met down at the picnic pavilions where dinner was to be served.  After getting there I hung out with Josh & Brandi and Don & Monica for a bit.  I still felt bad about not even recognizing Don the nite before, but oh well.  Food was decent, with my only gripe being that there was Miracle Whip, but no Mayonnaise.  People, one is not like the other at all!  I HATE Miracle Whip.  Thankfully they had Mustard.  And BBQ to feed my weekly BBQ habit (It’s gotten worse now that I live near Lexington, NC, and even if Holiday World’s BBQ wasn’t quite what I can get in NC, I still got my fix).

I sat and chatted with friends while the band played (I don’t remember them having that in 2008, it was a nice touch).  Will Koch even got up and played bass with the band on a Beatles number.  There was a question and answer at some point.  One of the first questions was some semi-clever attempt to make fun of Shoot the Rapids.  Meh, I guess since the Timberliners weren’t ready Holiday World wasn’t in any position to bash on CP…

But seriously, the folks at Holiday World put on a feast, and it was a really nice time.  I chatted it up with a few people here and there about different things and people, parks, and even some other enthusiast communities.  Eventually we made it to ERT, though, and off I went.

I honestly don’t remember where I went first, but I think it may have been Raven again, then back to Legend.  Both were still running great, and I know I got a few rides here and there on both of them.  Then the most amazing thing happened.

At some point I went over to ride Voyage.  I was in the front seat of the red train, it was dark, and on the return leg, where I normally would want off of the ride at the 3rd 90° turn, I wanted more.  I don’t know why (or really even at what point) my Voyage Tolerance went up, but it did.  At the brake run, I wasn’t exhausted.  I wanted to run around and ride some more.  I think I rode it about 8 times in a row total, and every time I felt the same way.  It was incredible, and I finally moved Voyage up into my 2nd place favorite wooden coaster.  And this is without the Timberliners (for the record, I felt the same way about both trains running that nite).

Another cool thing was getting to ride and talk to Sean Flaharty.  We talked about the online community and his decision to put it behind him.  The guy has been everywhere, so we talked about a lot of stuff.  Eventually we were standing by the Pepsi Oasis near Voyage when David Hamburger came up and joined in as well.  Then everyone in my group started yelling at me because I was neglecting them, so I told Sean that my friends were getting jealous so I had to go.  Still, it was nice meeting and hanging with him finally after, oh, a decade.

I did eventually try the Timberliners out.  They’re comfy, but they’ll be no mashing into the person next to you.  AVMatt and I sat side by side, and try as I might, I couldn’t smash into him.  Still can’t wait to see what they ride like though.  By the end of the nite I had had my fill of Voyage.  No one in my group (that was left at the park) wanted to leave Voyage, so I headed over to Legend for a couple of rides.  I got a front seat ride and it was wonderful.

I ended my nite on Raven, something I wouldn’t have even thought of before.  I was in the front seat and every time we came to the station there wasn’t anyone there to get on, so I rode 5 times in a row, closing out the nite.  Raven really kicks into gear the 2nd half thru the woods.  I still can’t get over how much better it was on this trip than on my last trip.  In fact, all 3 woodies were running better than I’d experienced before.

So once the rides stopped I headed to the front gate to wait on my friends.  Paula was standing there talking (and dancing, she had to keep awake somehow).  Everyone at the park had been more than friendly all day, and really the last 2 days.  Finally Matt, Matt, and Gator showed up.  AVMatt finally told Paula that he was the Matt who coined ‘Holiwood Nights’.  By this point it was late, so we left…to the hotel for a minute before heading over to the campground to hang out.

The evening went on, and it was still hot.  I think the only drink I had was water, I was really thirsty and didn’t feel like any alcohol.  I sat inside and talked to some of the younger crowd (Spaceboobs!) for a bit, and then outside, but it was too hot, so I headed back inside.  After about 90 minutes or so, Gator took us back over to our rooms at the Lodge.

The next morning we got up, I got my stuff from the Bubba clan, and since I’d changed and flew out of Louisville on Sunday, I wasn’t going back to Six Flags St. Louis or the Arch (Boo!).  But I was saving about $120, so yay me.  We stopped on the way to Louisville and Matt insisted I try White Castle for the first time, so Gator ordered 3 mini burgers.  Okay, but not fantastic.  Then we went to Culvers, another first for me, where we had real fast food.  T’was good too!

We got in to Louisville around noonish.  Sadly we drove right by a closed Kentucky Kingdom.  Had it been opened, I’d have had them drop me off there instead of the airport, and then just hopped a cab over to catch my flight.  The airport was nice, though, so I printed my boarding pass and breezed thru security.  I was really happy with my new luggage I’d picked up before the trip too, by the way.

I found my gate, got familiar with it, and sat for a bit catching up on my iPhone.  After a short jaunt to the restroom, I went to the bar beside my gate and had a drink to pass the time.  Then I went over and sat at a free charging station so I would have enough juice on my iPhone to listen to music on the flight.  Once the gate started to fill, I looked around and saw numerous iPhones and iPads (the first I’d seen those in the wild).  EVERYONE had something Apple.

The flight back to Charlotte was fine, and shorter than the flight from CLT to STL.  Another hour layover in CLT, then to GSO, then I was on my way driving home.  I got home around 6:30 that evening.  I was tired and sunburn, but in a great mood.

Holiwood Nights was great this year, and I may go back next year.  Obviously I was saddened by the death of Will Koch a week later, and I’m still thinking about the family, friends, and staff at Holiday World, who really did put on a great event.  The issues that I’d had the first time were non-existent on this trip, so that was a plus.  And even though my original plans for going were made with Timberliners in mind, the Voyage did something amazing Saturday nite.  I hope the new trains ride as good as those rides.

Check out the Flickr link, then check out the photos in the 'Sets' I have on Flickr for pictures.

[DianaR]

Great read Clint! Some day the Reess crew will attend! I look forwrad to it! Thanks for a great TR!

[dkny6363]

Great Trip report!

I shared alot of the same views as you. For example, I had no tolerence for voyage the first night. Obviously I loved it. But the second ride was uncomfortable, and the the 3rd ride was unbearable. I truly thought I would ride it 15 times each night. Was I way off. The second night I rode it 4 times and could have done more. I think its because I knew It would be a year before I'd get the chance to ride it again, so I sucked it up.

I found Raven, and Legend both insane. Without getting into too much detail I really enjoyed both of them.

The pizza was awesome, did anyone try the baked potato pizza? It was killer. You wouldn't want a plate with 2 pieces, but 1 piece was a wicked change of pace.

The Buffet on sat was rediculas good. The Chicken, Pork, and Mac and cheese were awesome, and you can't go wrong with beans.

Wildebeest was cool. I'm not a big waterpark guy but my family loved it which made it really fun for me. Sometimes on these trips I feel like I'm torturing them. So it was nice to see us all really enjoy a ride. I like zinga too.

A note on food prices... 4 corndogs, 2 nachos, and 1 order of fried brownies + 4 free drinks... about 18 bucks!

Two days before at KI for lunch we had 4 ! item + rice combos, and shared 2 large pops... 45 bucks!

Thats the kind of thing that makes a dads day ; )

Evaluating the voyage...

When I first rode Top thrill dragster it was so much better than any coaster I have ever been on... The same thing happened again when I rode El Toro for the first time. I never assumed that this would happen again cuz ET is so insane. But the voyage was that much crazier again. After riding it I couldn't believe what had just happened. The discomfort of riding it made the comparison closer than I had origionally thought. But after thinking about it for a few days I realized that the fact it's hard to ride after a few laps is a tribute to how INSANE it is.
El Toro is still my second favourite ride, but I wouldn't say its that close. Just like the drop off from ET to RF2 isn't that close. If any of you haven't riden one or the other and wonder what one you would like best I think this will help you. If your top 5 includes a coulpe of steel coasters... than you might like el toro better. If your top 5 is all wood, then I bet you'll like voyage better. It's just a badass wood coaster at its best. Oh and the red train was totally out performing the blue IMO.

Highlights of the trip...

1) Meeting all you guys on sat night. Next year we'll meet up sooner.

2) Riding the last trip of PP saturday night with the Negative G guy, his kid, and 2 other very excitted ridders. Really cool at night. I was surprised.

3) Raven in the back seat. WOW!

4) Lengaend in the back seat. Double WOW! that helix was a killer! Ironaically I must say I liked Raven slightly better than Legend. I liked raven in the front and back. I found legend to be so much better in the back the front was a no go.

5) The Voyage in any seat, Triple WOW! especially my last lap riding behind the matt's going hands up all the way, I think I may have busted a rib.

6) The whole week-end. The staff, the park, the food, the rides... everything was great.

I must say i was planning to do a TR. When I stared to reply to this I didn't intend for it to come out as a TR, but I just couldn't help my self. It was that great!

Same time next year ; )

[Edwardo]

The reason that I like El Toro better than Voyage is for one simple reason, and that's the type of airtime both give.  Voyage has Floaty/ejectorish air on the hills, but the only time I fill like I'm going to get thrown out is on the 6th hill and parts of the turn around in the woods.

But El Toro has some moments of Violent ejector airtime that feels like you're going to get FLUNG 100' in the air at the top of the hill.  Like on Phantom's Revenge.  And that's why I like it.

[dkny6363]

Suddenly the chances of me going to kennywood this year just went from 40% to 80%.

I must say El Toro's first 3 hills are better than Voyages, and the best moment of any coaster I've ever been on is El Toro over Rolling Thunder. It's the constant thrashing of Voyage that makes it better for me. I totally get liking ET better.

[PcMan]

EL TORO just ends to soon and sputters out towards the end

The Voyage just gets crazier and crazier towards the end

it is what it's named    The Voyage

[Edwardo]

Suddenly the chances of me going to kennywood this year just went from 40% to 80%.

I haven't been on Phantom since they put trims on (I'm told it didn't change it for the worse, so that's good to know), but there were some ultraviolent, Pimpsmack, redheaded stepchild, hatefilled airtime hills on Phantom, with just a (kind of lose) lap bar.  It's my 2nd favorite coaster ever (This is without me having ridden SFNE's RoS).

[B-mac]

I like those trims. You hear a scrape but nothing happens, quite like nitro.

[AV Matt]

The trims slow it down ever so slightly, but it's still a crazy good ride despite what Bubba says.

[B-mac]

It's the stereotype with trims. It took me forever to realize the trims on Nitro didn't even do anything.

[AV Matt]

Most trims suck, but you don't even notice them on Phantom. I am actually bothered by the ones on Nitro, as I've had brakeless rides and that thing blows away El Toro when it's untamed.

[B-mac]

I've never had Nitro slow down on me, it's always been the powerhouse of the park IMO.

[Robert T Ackerman]

You really can't feel the trims on Nitro on a normal day. There were about 2 weeks a few years back where the trims were off, and it actually scared me to the point where I pulled my lap bar back down after the 2nd bunny hill on the return run.

[GADVwow]

GIGGLESNORT!

I'm sorry, I find that entire mental image hysterical!

[B-mac]

You really can't feel the trims on Nitro on a normal day. There were about 2 weeks a few years back where the trims were off, and it actually scared me to the point where I pulled my lap bar back down after the 2nd bunny hill on the return run.

I remember when the on-ride camera was in the spot of the trim.