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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #175 on: October 05, 2009, 07:12:53 AM »
Have you ridden one?

B and M has tried valiantly to sell standups and has not succeeded.  Parks have watched other parks, and noted the ride is wildly popular...at first....it does not have sustained drawing power over time.  Parks have thus determined there are wiser choices for their money.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #176 on: October 05, 2009, 03:22:24 PM »
Another hyper-coaster for example.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #177 on: October 05, 2009, 08:08:37 PM »
That is correct. Stand-ups are popular for the first year and then die down.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #178 on: October 05, 2009, 08:43:04 PM »
I've never understood the "fad effect" of stand-ups. I don't think they "get old" any faster than  any other type of steel coaster that doesn't suck to begin with. I realize I am not the typical park-goer, but there are very few coasters that I like less now than I did when they were "fresh."

That said, I would rather see more suspendeds and traditional sit-down loopers with great layouts over anymore "gimmicky" steel.
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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #179 on: October 06, 2009, 03:52:27 PM »
Most stand-ups don't have a huge theme to go with it like say "alpengeist" or others.

Stand-ups are put on flat land and don't really have that much to enhance them. Shockwave would be a good example.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #180 on: October 06, 2009, 09:14:10 PM »
They don't have to be put on flat land though. There's only a handful of them out there, so there hasn't been much opportunity to showcase the possibilities.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #181 on: October 07, 2009, 01:43:56 AM »
I think Riddlers Revenge is a great themed ride. And its not just flat, You are dipping into the ground at points and riding in cutaways.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #182 on: October 07, 2009, 07:43:22 AM »
The old Batman in Houston was pretty well themed.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #183 on: October 07, 2009, 08:26:12 AM »
Some Stand-Up Coasters do hurt too depending on the drop's and G forces. I know when I went on Mantis at Cedar Point, The op's tell you "make sure you lock your knees on the first drop and stand up perfectly straight or else your "junk" will get crushed".

Most people go on them once just for the credit. this was the same situation with me and mantis. I think a standup would be a bad decision. However going on Griffon @ BGE, That coaster is just plain old awesome to ride and to watch it go through it's course. It almost looks like it is a bird flying through the air when it is traveling the track the way that it executes the turns and drops combined with the width of the train.

Six Flags could really capitalize on a Dive machine and theme it very well and it would still have great popularity.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #184 on: October 07, 2009, 08:56:12 AM »
I don't know....I just feel that Dive machines are the current fad like Stand Ups once were.

Plus, I am repeating my earlier post and saying we definitely need a third woodie. For between $5M-$10M, they could build a GG that would obviously be great. Ravine Flyer only cost $6.6M and it has a freakin bridge too!

So while I am not disagreeing that a dive machine wouldn't be a great addition, I just don't think its what Gadv needs right now.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #185 on: October 07, 2009, 11:07:27 AM »
Heres a list of most of the types of roller coasters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Types_of_roller_coasters

While I agree with overlord about the dive machine, idont see where a wood could go or how it could tie in with any of the themed sections.
What I think we should get is a new dueling coaster (or coasters) But we could make a dueling wood coaster.
 


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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #186 on: October 07, 2009, 01:11:17 PM »
Trust me, if they can make a wooden coaster themed to Terminator, I think they will be able to do something spectacular in Gadv.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #187 on: October 07, 2009, 02:35:24 PM »
A dueling woodie themed to superman and lex luthor.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #188 on: October 07, 2009, 05:20:23 PM »
Ugh, no more commercial theming, please! Theme the ride to the area of the park it's in, but leave comic books and movies out of it, please!

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #189 on: October 07, 2009, 06:19:33 PM »
You put it on the lake and call it Lakefront Flyer II and you are done.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #190 on: October 08, 2009, 01:07:51 AM »
The next woodie better be named "THE Jersey Devil", be themed VERY well, and interact with the natural forestation as much as possible, or I'll rip my hair out.  I prefer that it's Gravity Group that's building it as well. :)
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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #191 on: October 08, 2009, 11:15:21 AM »
NOW THAT IS A GOOD NAME! they could have it in the woods on the lakefront and have an anamatronic jersey devil. They could create a whole storyline about how the jersey devil came to six flags to spread terror at the park.


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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #192 on: October 08, 2009, 01:46:08 PM »
I agree a Wooden Coaster set in a wooded environment with a Name "The Jersey Devil" THIS IS A NO BRAINER.
I brought this up before they built El Toro and hoped they built it into the woods.Make it so you can't see the ride at all  this is how the Beast and the Voayage add to the ride its like a Terror trail that leads to the coaster make it that much more frighting.

Parks don't get it the Top rated coasters are those that take you on a journey like The Voyage,The Beast,Boulderdash and Prowler.
It doesn't have to be big,tall or even to fast to produce the thrills a great coaster has
just leave some trees and add a few simple tunnels or sheds.. :)

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #193 on: October 08, 2009, 02:00:38 PM »
If it could be located in the NJ area of the park; Nitro could use a wooden neighbor. :)
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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #194 on: October 08, 2009, 02:31:48 PM »
True, Great adv. could use one more coaster in that area.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #195 on: October 08, 2009, 06:40:38 PM »
The only coaster I've been on riding through the woods is Nitro and we all know how good that ride is. I would love to see a GG woodie at Gadv but only if Rolling Thunder gets taken out. 3 wooden coasters isn't a big deal it's just I'd rather have steel as a new addition than wood with Toro and Thunder.

Srosnerules, that was a beautiful post about Griffon. It IS like a bird flying through the sky. They are one of the most intense coasters out there and one at Gadv would fit in because it's the only style of coaster we don't have. That and 4d.

I really want to see a Jersey Devil themed Maverick! Now that would make Gadv a Roller Coaster Capital. Good coasters that is!

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #196 on: October 08, 2009, 06:45:12 PM »
Jersey Devil themed Maverick?  But the Jersey Devil eats steel, so the coaster has to be wood so you have a chance of escape. :D
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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #197 on: October 08, 2009, 06:55:45 PM »
The only coaster I've been on riding through the woods is Nitro and we all know how good that ride is.

The closest tree to nitro is like 50 ft. it doesn't exactly do a wooded run like, say, runaway train.

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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #198 on: October 08, 2009, 10:09:30 PM »
In fact runaway train was even more wooded when the park first opened. It was more like say boss or beast.


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Re: Next Ride To Go?
« Reply #199 on: October 08, 2009, 10:40:17 PM »
Three woodies is too much, but 10 steel is not enough? Mmmm kay. ::)

Unfortunately, Great Adventure doesn't really have any "terrain" if you know what I mean, so it would be harder to make a journey through the woods as interesting as Voyage, Boulder Dash, etc... But a free-form out&back-style layout with plenty of room to keep trees on both sides of the track is the way to go. A twister layout would require larger patches of trees to be removed. The more secluded a coaster, the better!